Box Box F1 Pod
Box Box F1 Pod
17. Before the Styrian GP + WAGs 101 | Grand Prix prep
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Guten tag! We celebrate the first round at the Red Bull Ring with a short view back to the past to revisit Austria 2002. Scandal. Betrayal. Dire consequences. It’s the kinda drama we live for. Then, it’s all about the fräuleins! We break down all things WAG ( from trackside presence to style). Let’s go!
- Digital roundup
- Red Bull Austria GP video
- Spoiler alert: Max Verstappen, Checo, Pierre Gasly, and Yuki Tsunoda drive through Austria wearing lederhosen.
- McLaren's first Lando + Daniel video
- Spoiler alert: There's a reason it took this long.
- Red Bull Austria GP video
- About the Red Bull Ring
- A short view back to the past...
- Austria 2002
- What is team order
- WAGs
- Breakdown of style, relationships, trackside presence, + more
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[intro music]
00:00:08 Hannah
Hi I'm Hannah.
00:00:14 Rachelle
Hi, I'm Rachelle and this is Box Box F1 Pod. Today we are going to be doing our pre-Austria round one. And now it's time for our digital roundup.
00:00:28 Hannah
So, we had some amazing videos released this week. Red Bull and AlphaTauri, their drivers, so Max Checo, Pierre, and Yuki all arrived in Austria and went on a little adventure wearing lederhosen, in traditional Austrian clothing, and they look like they're from like the 1800s and they went on a boat. And what are those cars called? Off roading?
00:01:05 Rachelle
Massive trucks. I don't know, I don't think people generally off road in like, they look like military grade, like where you transport prisoners. They were giant.
00:01:16 Hannah
So anyways, they had a little welcome to Austria and shot a funny vide. And it was just so nice to see these drivers like off the track and get a little bit more of their personality and it just confirmed for me, my love for Yuki. Cause Yuki was so cute in his little Austrian outfit and he was so excited to be there and I love watching him row a boat.
00:01:46 Rachelle
They barely rowed it. But yes, I agree he was adorable. Him and Pierre make a good...
00:01:54 Hannah
Best friends.
00:01:58 Rachelle
For some reason they look like the little like the little siblings.
00:01:59 Hannah
I think Pierre and Yuki are slowly but surely becoming best friends. And yeah, I agree the way they interact is really cute. Cause they're not like, they're both a little bit more reserved. Like on you know, especially on camera like they're not like fully joking with each other but Yuki is just being genuine and Pierre like cracks up cause he finds Yuki to be the most hilarious person ever. And Yuki is not even trying and another video before we dive into this one that preceded this Austria video. It was Yuki and Pierre sitting across from each other, teaching each other French and Japanese and one of the questions was how does a dog bark in Japanese? And Yuki said, I don't even know.
00:02:40 Rachelle
Wang wang.
00:02:44 Hannah
Wang wang.
00:02:46 Rachelle
And Pierre lost his mind.
00:02:49 Hannah
Yes, and Yuki said, they do, right? And Pierre’s like, no. They go woof woof. And Yuki says no, all my dogs go wang wang. Wang wang.
00:03:02 Rachelle
I mean, I know what Yuki means because in Russian dogs bark gaff gaff. You've never heard a dog go gaff gaff before. But like that's how like dogs bark in Russian. I also think that any like reservation in their friendship is purely probably like a language barrier because like if they both spoke the same language like fluently, like if it was their first language then I think they would literally be best friends forever.
00:03:28 Hannah
Well, OK, but Yuki is obsessed with video games. So, frankly, and Pierre, I mean I think he does play video games sometimes, but it's not even close to the level of Yuki so.
00:03:43 Rachelle
I think also we cracked the code as to why he performed so well in Baku.
00:03:51 Hannah
Yuki could not. Or he, in such a mature manner, chose not to bring his PlayStation to Baku because he had a race to do so he had zero distractions. And it proved to be very good for him, because he did so well in that race. And so, I hope he learns his lesson that he should not bring his PlayStation with him to every Grand Prix.
00:04:15 Rachelle
You know cause he stays up till like the wee hours playing. Obviously who's gonna race well when they're half asleep? That's probably why he keeps crashing into the barrier.
00:04:24 Hannah
But he's just growing. We'd love to see new key growth.
00:04:24 Rachelle
00:04:27 Rachelle
Yes we do. And I do love their friendship a lot. And this video was, the trip through Austria was very cute.
00:04:36 Hannah
It really did look like the Sound of Music. It was so scenic. There are mountains with fresh pine trees.
00:04:43 Rachelle
Well, they started in Salzburg.
00:04:45 Hannah
Yeah, and like the water like when they're on their little wooden boats were so it was such a scenic sunny day. When the Red Bull and Alpha Tauri drivers get to Austria, they first get on their wooden boats and, of course, Red Bull turns it into a race, even though they're literally there to relax and enjoy Austria. And Max and Checo start going really fast on their boat and steal the keys I think to their cars, which was their next section of their little adventure.
00:05:23 Rachelle
Well, they didn't just go fast, they cheated. They were told not to, just row and not use their engines. And the first thing they did was turn on the engine. So they cheated like from the first.
00:05:32 Hannah
Red Bull is ruthless and will win at any cost, even if it means screwing over their own junior drivers.
00:05:44 Rachelle
No, so they like literally zoomed in and out of the water, picked up the keys and it took like Yuki and Pierre like 20 minutes longer, sort of reflective of what happens on the track.
00:05:55 Hannah
Yeah, I took a screenshot of Yuki standing on the boat looking confused as to what's happening, which I also feel like is emblematic of his random crashes on the track.
00:06:06 Rachelle
Then they milked some cows.
00:06:08 Hannah
Yeah, and Yuki tripped over a bucket full of milk or something like that. I don't know if it was full of milk, but he like walked backwards and tipped over a bucket. I hope that wasn't the milk that Checo just spent all this time milking a cow for.
00:06:27 Rachelle
To be fair, they all, they laugh every time Yuki does something. I feel like he's just like great comic relief.
00:06:32 Hannah
I am obsessed with Yuki.
00:06:35 Rachelle
Same. He did a little karaoke in the car. He was just chilling while they were driving through Austrian terrain singing Japanese songs. And Pierre was laughing, as always.
00:06:49 Hannah
Yes, I’m so glad Pierre gets the humour.
00:06:52 Rachelle
Yeah, anyway the video ended with them eating Schnitzel.
00:06:55 Hannah
So that wrapped up the Austria adventure. So, we're glad that Red Bull and AlphaTauri had a great big welcome. On the other hand, McLaren released their first video of Lando and Daniel doing something fun and jovial together. Or so they tried. They did a snack wars which is pitting Daniel’s, or Australia's traditional snacks, for Daniel to introduce the Lando. And then traditional like British snacks for Lando to introduce to Daniel and kind of scored them. Daniel was so critical of everything, even the Australian snacks, but especially of the British snacks and these are not, yhese are not like necessarily gourmet. They were cookies.
00:07:47 Rachelle
They were the same snacks under different names basically.They were eating the same things.
00:07:53 Hannah
Yeah, and but like it wasn't like this wasn't like a freshly baked cake. You know. Like, well, no. Yeah, critiquing is like just they opened a box of Tim Tams.
00:08:03 Rachelle
It's like Oreos.
00:08:05 Hannah
Yeah, exactly. It's like imagine picking apart an Oreo.
00:08:08 Rachelle
Yes, but OK so. When you say he was critical, he was critical in a like he was critiquing like a food critic. He wasn't like work grossed out by everything, but he was going into intricate details.
00:08:20 Hannah
Well, he didn't really like a lot of this stuff.
00:08:24 Rachelle
Yeah, but to me Lando seem more grossed out by every Australian thing. He's like meh, this is fine, but yeah, whatever.
00:08:31 Hannah
Well, let's just say they first started out with vegemite so fair. And then they ate Tim Tams and then Lando kept saying is it the Penguin?
00:08:36 Rachelle
It is.
00:08:43 Hannah
Yeah, so they're the same, so thankfully they have something in common.
00:08:50 Rachelle
Well, I mean almost, all British and Australian snacks are, everything they ate looked pretty much identical. Like this is a cookie with jam. This is a cookie with jam. This is some chocolate, this is some chocolate.
00:09:00 Hannah
Lando just kept looking at Daniel as Daniel was critiquing the snacks and kept giving him the side eye. Lando said Daniel was trying to be like Gordon Ramsey cause he’s just like
00:09:13 Rachelle
He was like, so the jam tastes a little artificial and then if you bite into the cookie it has a bit of salt. And there do you taste that hint of salt and then combined to create this combination of flavours and Lando was like what?
00:09:27 Hannah
Should I play a clip?
[video clip]
00:09:44 Hannah
OK yeah, so you see what we mean?
00:09:46 Rachelle
Wow I got that almost verbatim.
00:09:48 Hannah
You really did, but yeah, it's just like the intricacy. And it’s like OK, dude.
00:09:53 Rachelle
And there is nothing wrong with what Daniel's doing. He took the assignment seriously. He's like, oh, we're like eating food. Let me describe it.
00:10:02 Hannah
Yeah, whereas Lando was just there to eat some snacks.
00:10:06 Rachelle
Yes, and it was just different vibes that just don’t go together.
00:10:13 Hannah
Exactly, yeah. And then it got even weirder at the end because there was a Kinder Egg.
00:10:19 Rachelle
Lando like opened the Kinder Egg and was like do you want the toy? And Daniel was like, no that’s more your age group. And then Lando proceeded to put the toy together and spin it around the room.
00:10:28 Hannah
Yeah, he was like actually this toy is cool. Yeah, another thing I really liked was there is a chocolate orange you know with like the orange slices that break apart. And Lando goes, this is a delicacy. And then he smashes it with his fists.
00:10:47 Rachelle
Have you opened it like that?
00:10:50 Hannah
No, not like that. But that makes way more sense because when I try to open it like daintily it was kind of difficult.
00:10:59 Rachelle
My brother would just throw it against the wall.
00:11:01 Hannah
But then it’s on the ground.
00:11:01 Rachelle
Well no. He throws it while it’s still in the foil.
00:11:05 Hannah
Oh yeah, that makes sense. But yeah, trying to actually peel it apart like an orange, I discovered, is not the move. You have to smash it, but I just found it hilarious cause he, in one second, says it's a delicacy and then how you eat that delicacy is by literally punching it.
00:11:25 Rachelle
Also, did they not make it to Australia? Why don't they exist there?
00:11:31 Hannah
I'm sure they do, but this is also like a chocolate orange. I mean, I do think many people have had them, but it's kind of a situation where you would never buy yourself a chocolate orange. It's just there somehow. So, you can imagine for some people, if they've never come across one, like being offered to them. It's just like, OK, well, I mean, it's not worth buying. I got one in my Christmas stocking. And I was like OK then. I would rather have a Sephora gift card, but OK.
00:12:08 Rachelle
We always got them for New Year’s, for Russian years he give gifts and I got $5 and the chocolate. Orange and was like this is shit.
00:12:17 Hannah
Now, you should talk about the Red Bull Ring.
00:12:18 Rachelle
Sure, it's not that exciting, so it used to be called the Zeltweg Airfield Circuit. Then it got renamed to Osterreichring, And existed from 69 to 95. Then it became the A1 Ring which was built in 1995 and it basically converted Osterreichring to a more modern and shorter circuit. And then it got renamed to Red Bull Ring in 2011. It's a weird circuit. It's only two miles long, which I think is weird for non-city circuits. It’s half the length of Paul Ricard. It has a few long straights. There's uphills, then, obviously there's downhills, and there's a few sharp turns on the downhills, so I guess that's what makes it fun and different. But yeah, that’s the ring. It's pretty straightforward.
00:13:12 Hannah
As our Pre-Austria GP episode, we're gonna tell a dramatic, or Rachelle is going to tell a dramatic story.
00:13:22 Rachelle
Gentlemen, I short view back to the past. And the past today is going all the way to 2002 where we found ourselves in Austria and witnessing one of the biggest scandals Formula One has ever seen.
00:13:40 Hannah
Dun Dun Dun.
00:13:41 Rachelle
And shocker, shocker it surrounds Ferrari. When Ferrari tried to manipulate things to their advantage, which they are iconic and we do not question their methods. But they like a bit of manipulation here and there. So this was when Michael Schumacher was still racing and his teammate at the time was Rubens Barrichello which sounds Italian. But it's not. He's from Brazil. And Rubens was on pole, which is exciting for him because he's only won one race in his entire career. It was like 2 years before this.
So about halfway through the race, Ferrari starts yammering onto the radio for Rubens to let Schumacher pass, so that he could win. And he kept refusing. They did this like through half literally half the race like let him pass and he's like no. :et him pass. No. We don't have Rubens side of the radio, but.
00:14:41 Hannah
Was Schumacher like right behind him?
00:14:45 Rachelle
No. So, basically they needed Schumacher to win for the points I guess. And that in the end they kept being like he did this for the championship. He did this for the championship, but he kept saying no basically. And at the time the team principal was Jean Todt. He is currently the FIA president and he was, there is a clip of his side of the radio where he's literally shouting “let him pass. Let him pass.” And he kept saying you shall not pass. Just kidding, he didn't say that. He waited until they were literally like, you could see the chequered flag, and then he did like an abrupt brake, to the point where, like, almost fully stopped in the middle of the track. Which I guess cause people couldn't hear the radio at the time, or at least the two-way communication necessarily. He was making it very clear that he was being forced to let Schumacher go.
00:15:43 Hannah
I love this little drama queen.
00:15:46 Rachelle
I know. Schumacher clearly was not, did not sit well with him, because he had made such a blatant display of it. I think the idea is that it would be a bit more subtle and they could just pass it off as like, oh, he's slowed down, but that's not what happened.
00:16:00 Hannah
I have one follow up question which you might not know the answer to, but.
00:16:04 Rachelle
Yeah, what?
00:16:05 Hannah
Why did Schumacher have to win for the points. Like you mean they wanted him to win the driving championship for the Constructor’s Cup?
00:16:17 Rachelle
Right, so I never understand this. Cause remember this happened with Hamilton and Bottas where they were like. We need Hamilton to win. You get more points.
00:16:24 Hannah
Yeah, and in that situation, cause like I remember that like episode in Drive to Survive where that happened. I assumed, cause yeah, I didn't get a clear answer, so I assumed it's because Hamilton, of course was in the running to win the Driver Constructor Cup. So that's what I just pieced together. But yeah, I don't really know.
00:16:43 Rachelle
I thought so too, because like then they get the world championship and the Constructor’s. But they all keep making it sound like the driver with the more points is better in terms of the Cnstructor’s, which doesn't make sense cause they don’t.
00:16:57 Hannah
Yeah it doesn't make sense. It just goes to the team. So we might have to explore that more, but. It's just like it's a team sport, people.
00:17:09 Rachelle
I know it's ridiculous, especially when.
00:17:10 Hannah
And if you feel like it's unfair for what you're saying in this 2002 race that Rubens guy was on pole and seemed like he could win himself, and I think that's really unfair, like I get if you’re like maybe like 4th and 5th and like that fifth driver does have the potential and pace to like, get more ahead. You want them to like, do their best then, but if the first driver is actually like has the better pace, just let them win.
00:17:38 Rachelle
Yeah, and they think he was way ahead of him and it was also weird because he was never going to contest the World championship from Michael Schumacher. He’s only won one race so far. Michael Schumacher went on to win the World Championship with more than double the points. Why they couldn't let him have this win, is just really weird and just mean. Then at the podium, Michael Schumacher, I don't know if this was a PR move or if he was actually nice about it, but it didn't come out that way. Anyway, so he gave the trophy to, what’s his name, Rubens. And let him stand on the 1st place podium.
00:18:22 Hannah
What, so, he's acknowledging that he shouldn't have won.
00:18:27 Rachelle
Well, he basically he did eventually in the press conferences like this is just tactic that came from above like this hey do, but it's necessary for like the championship.
00:18:36 Hannah
But like how weird to be Reubens and be like, so I'm gonna step up here then. Yes, literally had to stand there. So he said that so after that they go into the press conference they go into like the podium press conference. And he said he was late because he was rage puking.
00:18:57 Hannah
He said that?
00:18:59 Rachelle
Yeah, he was like I was so angry I started puking and couldn't stop.
00:19:01 Hannah
Have you ever done that?
00:19:03 Rachelle
No!
00:19:06 Hannah
I've been so nervous I puked once, but never so mad.
00:19:13 Rachelle
Same, I've never heard of rage puking or like it sounded like it was like not one time.
00:19:19 Hannah
Like this happens to me weekly.
00:19:25 Rachelle
Yeah, it was really weird. But, so they got fined him shoot Schumacher of Rubens and Ferrari got fined one million dollars by the FIA for messing up the podium protocol. Not for the switch.
00:19:42 Hannah
That's so stupid. That's all just for PR, there's really no consequence in messing that up.
00:19:51 Rachelle
The FIA loves their rules. And then speaking of rules, for the next season they put in a new rule saying they weren't allowed to do team, they banned team order. And team order is that practice of where the team gives instructions for a driver on who should go ahead basically.
00:20:12 Hannah
But they do still do that, right?
00:20:15 Rachelle
So what ended up happening as the year went on, was that that was not a feasible rule to enforce. Because what ended up happening is that they just like didn't blatantly say let him pass. They would say things like oh it looks like he's a little faster than you or it looks like he's got a bit more pace, let’s see what he can do. So they ended up scrapping that rule, but I guess the polite messages stayed so like it still happens and when I was reading about it, they're like it's no longer really used to manipulate the race, but it's used to secure points and I'm like isn't that the same thing?
00:20:54 Hannah
Yeah, well OK I I don't know how that rule is written, but I do think it makes sense, just like in a common sense way. If you're telling a driver that they need to like see their position to their teammate out of common courtesy, you should tell them why. Like, say your teammate has faster pace, and we really think they can get ahead. Like just on a human-to-human interaction. I don't think it's very polite to just be like, go slower so they can get ahead like you should kind of explain yourself a little bit and I don't think it's that hard. Like, of course, the only reason is because they have more potential because they have a faster pace. So just say that.
00:21:38 Rachelle
Yeah, but it still sucks. Like giving a reason isn’t going to make Bottas feel better.
00:21:44 Hannah
No, but at least then they can, they have to kind of say yes though. Whereas if you're just like no reason, just cause. And it's just like, well, that's why I think Rubens was in the right to be like, no. He probably wanted to rage puke in his car, but that would have jeopardized everything.
00:22:03 Rachelle
It would've but yeah, anyway, so that was the story.
00:22:08 Hannah
That's a very good story. And yeah, we should definitely look more into team orders and team radio because something that also came up in conversation this week is when Bono tells Lewis it's hammer time. One of our listeners said, what is that? And it's simply means it's an all-out lap like pedal to the metal or whatever.
00:22:35 Rachelle
We talked last week about trophies and so there's a lot of stipulations for the trophies, like what they look like, how much they should weigh. Because sometimes drivers are too weak after a race to lift it up. So, if it's too heavy, that's happened before, they really could not lift the trophy, they dropped it. But one of the stipulations is that it has to be shaped like a cup. But obviously we've seen like a bunch of them, i.e the monkey, not shaped like cups. So apparently the way people interpret that rule is that there just has to be a big enough crevice to drink champagne from, which in the monkey’s case is the mouth.
00:23:10 Hannah
It's a gorilla. Which I think is key.
00:23:13 Rachelle
Sorry, gorilla.
00:23:13 Hannah
So he's bigger than a monkey. How much champagne can go into that gorilla’s mouth?
00:23:17 Rachelle
Not a lot. But, apparently it's enough to suffice the rule stipulation.
00:23:21 Hannah
It's like OK if half an ounce of champagne can go into a crevice.
00:23:27 Rachelle
I mean remember the Louis Vuitton one?
00:23:31 Hannah
That was in Monaco. I guess that entire Louis Vuitton container. But cause it is, it truly is a case. But that is weird. That trophy itself doesn't have a crevice because it's the Monaco track outline.
00:23:48 Rachelle
Unless it's hollow. And you can drink it from there.
00:23:53 Hannah
Well, I mean, is there a hole on the top? No, I think they must interpret it as you must pour the champagne into the Louis Vuitton. Or on the bottom. And where the like the plaque is, you know there's kind of a ring. Maybe that's hollow and you could drink it from the bottom of the Monaco track. It just seems like really unnecessary to. Like do they? They don't actually drink anything out of the trophy, so it's like why is that a rule? Of course, when you have the traditional trophies where it is like a cup, I could see how you know if you're really amped up, you would want to drink out of that, for like fun, but you don't need to require they do that. I love a spontaneous gesture.
00:24:47 Rachelle
Wait, do you remember when Daniel Ricciardo would do shoeys?
00:24:51 Hannah
Yes, I know a lot of people did, but yeah Daniel. Especially like they put. I guess there's a tradition where you pour the winning champagne into your shoe. Like literally it’s in your shoe.
00:25:02 Rachelle
That’s Daniel’s tradition.
00:25:04 Hannah
So that's so disgusting because shoes are, even the inside of shoes are dirty. Cause then, like your feet are gross and how can you drink something that tastes like feet?
00:25:18 Rachelle
I don't, especially after two hours of sweating in that shoe driving. They drink it out of there like track boots.
00:25:24 Hannah
You know what would be a great drinking shoe? A Bottega tire boot cause it's so durable. Even if you dropped it, it would contain all the liquid.
00:25:41 Rachelle
So you want out of a shoe.
00:25:44 Hannah
It has so much tread, no fall could wear it out.
00:25:49 Rachelle
Did you see Lewis was in a new set of boots this week?
00:25:52 Hannah
Yeah, they're steel toed. Yes, just why. Why do you need a steel toe?
00:25:55 Rachelle
I don't know. If someone tries to run over his foot.
00:26:01 Hannah
His feet are so much more prepared than any of us are in life.
00:26:09 Hannah
One of our favourite listeners requested that we discuss the wives and girlfriends, AKA WAGs of the Formula One drivers. Which of course we've been following, but we've never really brought up in depth so. Let's start with the GOAT. Geri Halliwell, otherwise known as Ginger Spice. She is the wife of Christian Horner and they have ginger children.
00:26:43 Rachelle
Yes, and donkeys.
00:26:45 Hannah
And donkeys cause they're posh AF. I mean, Geri is incredibly put together.
00:26:53 Rachelle
Yeah, Geri always looks good. My favourite scene is still that one from Drive to Survive where Christian’s like my job is so hard like I travel so much. And Geri looks directly into the camera and she goes really, You travel a lot? You have early mornings? Cool. Cause she was on a much more strenuous schedule. They had like a new show every night, right? It's not like week by week.
00:27:16 Hannah
Yeah, and she had to learn dance routines, workout, look good. Christian, just sits behind a bunch of graphs. He doesn't even have to really do anything. He just travels. And Christian never learned how to do a dance.
00:27:30 Rachelle
But yes, she's a baller. We love Geri.
00:27:35 Hannah
And then similarly, another GOAT, Susie Wolff, wife of Total Wolff. And Susie, is bad ass because she is a Formula E team principal.
00:27:47 Rachelle
Yes, and before that she was a test driver I think yeah.
00:27:51 Hannah
Yeah, for F1. And so, I love that Toto is like attracted to like someone who is also into racing cause you don't really see a lot of like, couples who are both into racing. Like the typical WAG is like a model honestly. Like at this point. Or like someone more into like the fashion side of things. But yeah, Susie's the real deal and in an interview with Nico, Toto mentioned that he often discusses with his wife the debate of nurture versus nature. I'm like how often? Like is this daily?
00:28:36 Rachelle
On a regular basis? Me and my wife always sit down and say so. Nature versus nurture. Thoughts?
00:28:41 Hannah
Yeah, I mean I totally, cause I mean Toto’s incredibly intelligent but in a way that's like still really charming. So, I feel like I could somehow get roped into a conversation about nature versus nurture with Toto, but in a way that's not pretentious like just genuinely like, kind of like joking about it and then like somehow getting into a long discussion. Hopefully, not more than once a week cause it's just like, OK, I mean that is a debate that has lasted centuries, so I'm like. You know there's no conclusion, and what's the point? At a certain point, it's just like people are the way they are. And even if you explain it, it's like OK, well did that even help? No. But the point is, they're both incredibly smart and dedicated and serious about their work. But also I think they seem like great people.
00:29:39 Rachelle
Yeah, I was also going to say in that interview with Nico. Nico mentioned that, cause Toto was in Monaco to support her race and Nico was like the announcer said, like showed the camera to him, and said Susie Wolff's husband. And Nico was like how did that make you feel. And he was like, I am Susie Wolff’s husband blah blah blah. So, Toto accepts his role as like the trophy husband at certain times.
00:30:08 Hannah
Cause Susie seriously has so much credibility.
00:30:12 Rachelle
Yeah, she's very cool.
00:30:13 Hannah
Like she is her own person for sure. Honestly, Christian should be introduced as Ginger Spice's husband and then many people. You know how many people would be dying to know that information but probably don't follow F1 enough to even know. And their shock and amusement at that statement would be a lovely surprise.
00:30:36 Rachelle
I think they should just call him that from now on. Mr. Ginger.
00:30:39 Hannah
Yes, Mr. Ginger Spice. OK, now I think you should intro the next one.
00:30:47 Rachelle
OK, so Jean Todt, who actually looks like a toad, is like 75. And has been partners with, partners sounds like they’re playing ping pong. His life partner is Michelle, how do you say her last name?
00:31:06 Hannah
Yeoh? I would say Yeoh. What were you going to say?
00:31:06 Rachelle
Yeoh.
00:31:11 Hannah
Oh, it is. Michelle Yeoh.
00:31:13 Rachelle
But why is there an e there then?
00:31:16 Rachelle
But anyways, they've been partners since 2004. And if you don't know who she is, she is a Malaysian actress, best known, to me, I think she was also a Bond girl, but most recently known for Crazy Rich Asians. And I thought it was exciting cause I was not expecting to see her on the track. I was also not expecting to see such a beautiful woman holding Jean Todt’s hand. And also I was like wow, she's actually crazy rich. So that was exciting for me.
00:31:46 Hannah
OK, let me intro the next one. OK, so Kimi Raikkonen, the Stoic Finn, who never says anything very favourable. He is absolutely enamoured and in love with his wife. I don't know how to pronounce her name, but it's spelled like Minttu. And he posts about her constantly on Instagram and I just love the contrast between his usual self, which is very basically, silence. And then he'll just post something so nice about her just like love of my life and things like that. And even though I don't know that much about her, I love his love for her. Cause that's where he shows, like. I mean, it shows like this is his number one priority in his life, like his wife and his children.
00:32:36 Rachelle
His Mother’s Day post. I know this is a phrase, but it's so funny to read: Happy Mother's Day to our yummiest mummy in the world. Like so yummy mummy is a phrase in England.
00:32:49 Hannah
No no no no no.
00:32:51 Rachelle
It is. Yummy mummies are like the MILFs basically.
00:32:55 Hannah
Yeah, I mean. Let me just read a few of the top comments on that post. The thought of Kimi typing this is universe bending. Oh, and then people were like I don't think Kimi controls this account.
00:33:11 Rachelle
She posted laughing, crying emojis.
00:33:15 Hannah
Yeah, I actually do believe he posts that because I actually think he is completely just like floored by her on a daily basis, which I find that so sweet. OK, our next WAG is actually we only discovered her because they're super Incognito. So Carlos Sainz his girlfriend is Isabel Hernaez and they barely have any social media posts together.
00:33:50 Rachelle
Can I describe their vibe?
00:33:50 Hannah
Yes.
00:33:51 Rachelle
OK, so you know that couple that like, or when someone starts dating someone but they're trying to be like cool on social media, so they won't post like a legit couple photo. Instead, they'll post like a picture of like, like a scenic photo, and then you see like the back of someone or like they'll post like little stories and like you’ll see a glimpse of someone or like the shadow of someone. That's what they remind me of.
00:34:20 Hannah
OK, you know what that reminds me of, though? When you're like suspicious in, not like a relationship, but like either of an ex-boyfriend or someone you're kind of seeing where you're not fully sure. They leave these tiny little nuggets where if you're like a psycho girl, which essentially we've all become to know who Carlos’ girlfriend is. You go on these rabbit holes. And now thankfully the Internet has presented her to us through articles, through these types of investigations. But yeah, it's like you find these little Easter eggs like you see a strand of girl hair in Carlos’ post and you're like OK, who is this bitch? And then you end up spending 12 hours finding who was tagged in what and then going to the mutual friends’ Instagram to piece together the puzzle. And it's like that meme where you know in Always Sunny where Charlie has like the red string and he looks like he's on drugs, like pointing to all their red strings. Yeah it was basically that situation where you would never know upon looking at their profiles that they were dating. But if you are, if you're a great girl detective, you just know what to do.
00:35:41 Rachelle
I that that behaviour I don't limit it to ex-boyfriends.
00:35:49 Hannah
No, anyone. But you have to have some vested interests. It's not like a like, of course we're invested in Carlos. OK, Kelly Piquet. Max Verstappen's current girlfriend.
00:36:20 Rachelle
Kelly Piquet is really into F1. Her brother was an F1 driver up. I think her family is all in F1 somehow and she first made her romantic entrance into the F1 world via Daniil Kvyat, who was a former.
Red Bull driver. He got her preggers. Then Max Verstappen showed up, stole Danil’s seat in Red Bull, demoting him to AlphaTauri. Then he stole Kelly. And I guess the baby, I never see this baby, this baby must speak a lot of languages.
00:36:40 Hannah
So Kelly is Brazilian but.
00:36:42 Rachelle
They speak Portuguese in Brazil, right?
00:36:44 Hannah
Yes they do, but does she live there?
00:36:48 Rachelle
No, she lives in Monaco.
00:36:49 Hannah
Yeah, so baby would have to speak French.
00:36:51 Rachelle
But her first language is Portuguese. She's so that means, but then to her and Max must converse in English cause she doesn't know Dutch, right?
00:36:59 Hannah
The good thing is their brain is malleable and this is the best time to learn languages. I mean, it's very common to be to learn two languages, obviously. And like I guess the baby brain can master that, but five?
00:37:14 Hannah
Like how do you keep track of what word belongs with which language?
00:37:20 Rachelle
One time I was in Italy, and I attempted to say a sentence in Italian, but unfortunately every half-known, every language I like half knew came out and I think I said a sentence that had Italian, French, Spanish, Russian and English all in like one sentence. Feel like this is what the baby sounds like.
00:37:39 Hannah
I mean, I assume they're taking that into consideration, like Dutch can go.
00:37:43 Rachelle
Oh yeah, no, she doesn't need the Dutch.
00:37:46 Hannah
English makes the most sense, cause in terms of practicality like OK, so Kelly and Max and Danil, they all speak it. But also, like for the baby to know, English is crucial, so I would hope they're emphasizing English and then the other stuff like Portuguese and Russian, of course, is good for like family, but I would hope it's just limited to those three. And that seems manageable for a baby. From one like high profile couple to another, I think we should go straight to Charles Leclerc and Charlotte Sine. Because they post a lot.
00:38:28 Rachelle
There is no doubt that they are together.
00:38:31 Hannah
OK, this is a personal thing for me. I just really am a bit uncomfortable when couples look like they can be siblings.
00:38:43 Rachelle
I mean Monaco is not that big. Is this what Monegasque people look like? Big,
00:38:48 Hannah
Yeah, so they're both like brunette with like hazel-ish eyes and look abnormally symmetrical and have incredibly charming smiles and just look perfect. And I'm just like what is in the water in Monaco where they’re giving birth to these people. They’re your quintessential Gen Z couple.
00:39:14 Rachelle
Yes. She seems very sweet and I also like that she acts her age.
00:39:20 Hannah
OK, wait, we gotta talk about her shoe line. She just takes Nikes and puts marker all over them.
00:39:28 Rachelle
She's Gen Z.
00:39:30 Hannah
Yeah, I mean.
00:39:31 Rachelle
That’s as Gen Z as you get. I actually thinks she seems very sweet and nice like I feel like she would be fun to hang out with, but she does seem very young. Before we move on to the next one on the list, we've skipped Bottas and I just want to mention. So, first of all, apparently Bottas has been married before.
00:39:52 Hannah
No, he went through a divorce?!
00:39:54 Rachelle
Yes.
00:39:54 Hannah
Why has he gone through so much strife in his life?
00:39:59 Rachelle
I don’t know. I feel like I feel bad that we were so hard in him. Now he's got so much personal and professional trauma that he carries with him on a daily basis.
00:40:08 Hannah
I hope people don't take our criticism seriously. Cause we go, we switch back and forth every week between loving and hating people.
00:40:16 Rachelle
Yes, and really we love everyone. We just have a lot of opinions.
00:40:21 Hannah
There's certain weeks. OK, I will say in our defense when we are being really harsh on bodice, it's because he wouldn't let George through in Imola. And also like he made it really hard for Hamilton go through. Even though Hamilton had better pace. So I think we actually had good reason to be hard on him. But we do not need to do that anymore cause everyone is hard on him.
00:40:43 Rachelle
Yes, that is true and at some point, it's like enough is enough.
00:40:47 Hannah
Yeah, we need to stop because he needs all the support he can get.
00:40:54 Rachelle
Yes, poor Bottas. But yeah, so he was married to a Finnish woman. They got divorced because of complications with the job. And now he is dating Tiffany Cromwell who is an Australian cyclist.
00:41:07 Hannah
Wow
00:41:08 Rachelle
Did you not know she was cyclist? So in case anyone else doesn't know, just look at our tan lines because she has the most extreme bike short tan line I've ever seen. It was caught in one of the photos of them entering the paddock last week and it was, she even re-posted. She was like, Oh my God.
00:41:30 Hannah
I'm glad we got to Tiffany cause I'm just glad that Bottas is finding love.
00:41:37 Rachelle
Yeah, he has happiness somewhere in his life.
00:41:38 Hannah
Yeah, like I respect that she's an athlete cause I'm sure she like, gets the competitiveness and like somewhat like of what he's going through.
00:41:47 Hannah
So, next on our list is Lance Stroll’s girlfriend Sara Pagliaroli. What you first need to know is that they kiss a lot.
00:42:02 Rachelle
And post it. But not like a kiss like a snapshot like Charlotte and Charles have a little too often. But like there, there's videos of them making out. So yeah, like we don't know that much about her, but they just have a lot of PDA and I hope she goes to their family dinners.
00:42:24 Rachelle
Friday night dinners for
00:42:26 Hannah
I said, do you think they eat poutine every Friday?
00:42:31 Rachelle
I don't know, depends if they mix, I don't, I feel like they're not that Jewish, they probably do eat poutine.
00:42:36 Hannah
Lawrence disowned his Jewish name.
00:42:41 Rachelle
Lawrence Strolevitch.
00:42:45 Hannah
He hasn’t had a latke in decades.
0:42:48 Rachelle
He could make poutine latkes. And then it’s mixing his cultures.
00:42:53 Hannah
Fusion leads to confusion. That's what I was told.
00:43:00 Rachelle
By whom?!
00:43:00 Hannah
Gordon Ramsay.
00:43:05 Rachelle
Didn’t realize he was so purist.
00:43:07 Hannah
Well, I mean, I think when no, when fusion is done well, it's acknowledged. But you know 90% of the time.
00:43:13 Rachelle
It's really hard to get right.
00:43:14 Hannah
It’s really fucked up. It's like you just messed up both cultures and now we're all offended.
00:43:23 Rachelle
All right, well, I guess we'll see you guys in a few days for the first Red Bull Grand Prix.
00:43:29 Hannah
Well, we're gonna probably release our episode a day or two after.
00:43:34 Rachelle
Someone decided to go on a vacay.
00:43:38 Hannah
Well, I know our listeners are just twiddling their thumbs waiting for episodes to drop. So I just thought they should know.
00:43:45 Rachelle
They just refresh Spotify.
00:43:51 Hannah
Every Sunday, They’re just waiting every hour. But now, I have to go live a life.
00:43:58 Rachelle
I’ll be here, waiting for her to get back.
00:44:01 Hannah
But you're holding down the fort. Everyone's gonna be like well, did you guys not have an episode? And you'll have to field every question we get.
00:44:10 Rachelle
Lovely, my favourite part of the job. All right, well, we'll see you guys soon.
00:44:13 Hannah
Box Box!
00:44:18 Rachelle
Box box.