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12. Before the Azerbaijan GP | F1 stories
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We celebrate Baku 2021 with a short view back to the past to revisit one of the craziest races in F1 history. There were retired cars, penalties abound, flying car parts and fighting words. In other words, it was the drama we live for. But before we dig deep into that story, this digital roundup is one of the most comprehensive ones yet. From missing airplanes to cultural growth to candles, we talk about it all. Vamos!
- Digital roundup
- F1 news
- Bottas got lost (We made a meme about it)
- Max doesn’t walk tracks
- On the Internet…
- Lando Norris expands his food palette
- Zak Brown says arrivederci (Team Quadrant | original video)
- F1 candles: we identify drivers to their scent (from this Etsy shop)
- F1 news
- 2017 Baku Grand Prix
- Baku GP episode
- Baku GP 2021 predictions
- Guest host, Dyaus!!
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[intro music]
00:00:08 Hannah
Hi I'm Hannah.
00:00:11 Rachelle
Hi I’m Rachelle. And welcome to Box Box F1 Pod. Today we're going to do our pre-GP episode and we're going to Baku so we're highlighting a fun story that happened there once. And, unfortunately, there's only been like four years of stuff happening in Baku. So we're telling the only story that exists.
00:00:31 Hannah
But before we get into the story, we want to do our digital roundup.
00:00:37 Rachelle
In Baku right now… Why do I keep saying it like that? In Azerbaijan .
00:00:41 Hannah
I think that's nice.
00:00:42 Rachelle
You think it's nice? My parents are like that's not how you pronounce that. I was like, OK.
00:00:46 Hannah
How do you pronounce Baku?
00:00:48 Rachelle
Well, not like you, but also not like me.
00:00:50 Hannah
Oh, good.
00:00:52 Rachelle
It's somewhere in between.
00:00:54 Hannah
But do we even say Azerbaijan, right?
00:00:58 Hannah
You say it fine, you just say it American. I think it’s Azerbaijan. But you stick with what you're doing because because it's fine.
00:01:07 Hannah
OK, thank you.
00:01:10 Rachelle
Anyway, so over there they started doing today's media day. But there was one person missing. And it was Bottas. The entyre world was looking for Bottas and he was in the most obvious place, the Finnish airport.
00:01:26 Hannah
There was plane issues. He just got trapped in the airport for a while, but people were making jokes of course, because Bottas’ life is a series of unfortunate events.
00:01:37 Rachelle
And the sad part is for someone whose entyre career is based on transportation. He has just the worst luck when it comes to transportation.
00:01:47 Hannah
So when I heard that he was quote lost, I was gonna make a meme of Finding Nemo. But like Finding Bottas. But the problem was, when I kept Googling Finding Nemo images, there is no photos of Nemo.
The poster the poster is of Marlin, Nemo's father, and Dory looking for Nemo. And I was like so do I have to put Toto and Hamilton looking for Bottas? There is no equivalent, so I just decided not to, cause in reality there's no one searching the oceans for Bottas.
00:02:29 Hannah
No, in fact Lewis and Toto probably got rid of the plane.
00:02:34 Hannah
They probably sabotaged the Finnish plane from leaving. So they didn’t have to do media training with Bottas.
00:02:42 Rachelle
Poor Bottas. Justice for Bottas. You should have made the finding Nemo thing.
00:02:42 Hannah
But like I mean the in Nemo is not on the poster, it would have just spent a random clownfish with Bottas’ head on it.
00:02:48 Rachelle
First of all, can you actually tell the difference between those two clownfish?
00:03:01 Hannah
Yes, one is very large.
00:03:05 Rachelle
You could have done the clip of Darla, like that girl with braces shaking Nemo in the bag and just replace her face with Toto.
00:03:20 Hannah
That’s true. Oh that's hilarious. OK, I'll do that later. OK, so also in Baku pre-race, Max did an interview and he said he hasn't done a track walk in years because he doesn't need it, and in my opinion, if you've watched Cars, Max gives off big Lightning McQueen energy. Cause Lightning McQueen also thinks he's too much of a hot shit for track walks, and as a result, Lightning drove off a cliff.
00:03:54 Rachelle
Lightning did. To be fair, two weeks ago, Lewis Hamilton said that he doesn't need track walks and he thinks it's a waste of time.
00:04:00 Hannah
Yeah.
00:04:02 Rachelle
Max did not say he doesn't need track walks. He said he can't be arsed to do a track walk.
00:04:07 Hannah
He'd rather sleep in, but I mean. I guess also to his credit, he does slower out laps which is like kind of his version of a track walk in his car.
00:04:12 Rachelle
A track drive.
00:04:19 Hannah
Uhm, yes. Just a slow track drive. Uh, But yeah, I mean, it sounded arrogant, although he's obviously fine, but it's just like a track walk can’t hurt.
00:04:33 Rachelle
No, but also does he know he doesn’t have to walk? Cause like George Russell has never walked the track. I don't think. I think he bikes it. Every time, so like he can.
00:04:41 Hannah
I think he just thinks it's beneath him.
00:04:45 Rachelle
I mean clearly it is.
00:04:47 Hannah
Yeah, he's fine, but it's just yeah.
00:04:49 Rachelle
I think it's interesting the top two drivers like don't give a shit about the track walk. Maybe all of them don’t give a shit about the track walk, but they’re not good enough to be able to say.
00:05:00 Hannah
Any who. OK, you can talk about McLaren.
00:05:06 Rachelle
OK, Pont one, Lando we've said over the last few weeks, seems to be really growing up. Not that he wasn't mature before, but like you know he's becoming an adult.
00:05:16 Hannah
Well, he's immature in his taste buds, let's say.
00:05:19 Rachelle
Yeah. But a lot of the McLaren videos, When Carlos was on the team, were of him and Lando eating. And Carlos, as a Spaniard has a very, and a 27 year old man, has a very sophisticated palate. Lando, as a British boy, does not. He ate like all my friends at uni where like literally one time we went to watch a football match and they ordered a burger with no toppings and they got a double patty and they removed the tomato and lettuce and that's all they ate.
00:05:52 Hannah
That is not OK.
00:05:53 Rachelle
Like that's disgusting. And they're like why did you put avocado on your burger and I’m like why didn’t you?
00:05:57 Hannah
Actually, like when I was spending time in London, the only things that really stood out to me in terms of food was all the Indian food cause it was full of spice and everything else in comparison was so bland.
00:06:13 Rachelle
OK, I disagree with you there. I think London has incredible food. I think you might’ve gone to the wrong places.
00:06:16 Hannah
Not like, but like British food.
00:06:19 Rachelle
There is posh versions of British food that is very very good. Like done, well. It's more that they have unrefined palates. When they're young.
00:06:25 Hannah
Well. I see, but OK. Well wouldn't you agree though even with your best British food, the Indian food in London surpasses it in terms of taste and complexity?
00:06:41 Rachelle
I suppose. Cause a lot more spices go into it, but you, but it depends on what you're in the mood for. I agree the Indian food there is incredible.
00:06:49 Hannah
OK, well I've never had good British food, so I'll need to go back with you specifically.
00:06:53 Rachelle
I will take you yes.
00:06:57 Hannah
I mean, I had a great time there. I ate Indian food every day.
00:07:01 Rachelle
Oh my god.
00:07:03 Hannah
I went to Dishoom, obviously.
00:07:03 Rachelle
Oh my god it is so good there. Yes, I love it there.
00:07:12 Hannah
OK, I retract my statement cause it was a broad generalization, but I have yet to be fully immersed into British food culture.
00:07:15 Rachelle
It can be good, it can be good. This is more an attack on British men, like maturing late in England.
00:07:19 Hannah
Yes, it is highly targeted.
00:07:25 Rachelle
But Lando seems to be getting better. No offense to his taste before, but like we saw him eating at Nobu. Of course he did not order seem to order any sushi, but he did get some posh looking ice cream.
00:07:39 Hannah
Because I mean, it's very characteristic of Lando because he's known for drinking jugs of milk. His favorite food is milk, so of course…
00:07:47 Rachelle
Oh my God he should go into Indy 500.
00:07:50 Hannah
Cause apparently we just learned it's a long tradition in the Indy 500 for the winner to chug milk and pour it all over themselves. And then someone tried to not do milk one year and there was a riot. And they all someone also said, can it be chocolate milk? And they said no, it has to be 100% full fat white dairy milk. And thankfully no one has been lactose intolerant, so everyone has had to do it.
00:08:26 Rachelle
So gross. and also so unsophisticated compared to champagne.
00:08:32 Hannah
But I mean this is America, yeah, so.
00:08:34 Hannah
I know what do you expect? We got so detraced. Lando's other big moment this week was he was in Azerbaijan, in Baku and had a full spread of Azerbaijani food. Which was like, their meat which is so, like that meat is flavourful. Yeah, they're like vegetables. They're like it was a good.
00:09:01 Hannah
Lots of spices.
00:09:03 Rachelle
Yes.
00:09:03 Hannah
So clearly his palate had to adapt to that.
00:09:08 Rachelle
Yes, I'm very impressed that he has moved on from being in Japan and only wanting the cup of noodles. That was slightly appalling, Lando. I still love you, but Carlos is guzzling gyozas and he's just like can I have another cup of noodles?
00:09:25 Hannah
I really hope. I have no idea what he got at Nobu. I assume chicken teriyaki, but like he really needs to try sushi.
00:09:34 Rachelle
Yes he does.
00:09:34 Hannah
Cause Carlos likes sushi and was like why can't we have this every day, to which I agree, why can't we have sushi every day. Other than not trying sushi, he will try things, so that's the best we can hope for.
00:09:51 Hannah
He's doing good. We love Lando.
00:09:53 Hannah
We do. Everyone loves Lando, and we want him to succeed.
00:09:59 Rachelle
That's going on our first T-shirt guys. Look out for it soon. Once our logo’s ready. So the other McLaren thing we wanted to discuss was Team Quadrant, which is Lando's company, posted a reaction video to Zac Brown, saying, see you on the track next week, or next year, sorry, in Italian. And it doesn't sound like Italian. And Hannah will demo.
00:10:29 Hannah
He said a river dirt chi el prossimo and no chilly pasty.
[video sound]
00:10:41 Hannah
That is not how it's actually pronounced in Italian.
00:10:50 Rachelle
No, it would be a little closer to arrivederci. Is there a video of Mattia saying it because I feel like he's a little more spot on. Zak could really use some lessons. I sense a Zak/Mattia collab.
00:11:03 Hannah
Yes, except Mattia doesn't do anything related to fun.
00:11:08 Rachelle
Winning.
00:11:12 Hannah
Yes, he barely did Drive to Survive and his first interview they were like, do you have Netflix? And he was like…
00:11:19 Rachelle
No.
00:11:19 Hannah
No. What’s that?
00:11:24 Rachelle
Oh my god, OK, I'm actually crying the thing. The thing about this clip and about Zak. We love Zak and we think he is an impeccable representation of America. He is beauty, he is grace. He is Mr. United States.
00:11:42 Hannah
But this is what I said. Zak Brown walks a very fine line of maintaining the class and respect of a McLaren CEO while still being a slightly dim, relatable American father.
00:11:58 Rachelle
We love the authenticity, right? He didn’t do what I do where I’m just like, well I can speak Italian! Pizza, pasta!
00:12:06 Hannah
Yes. He didn't even try. He's just like this is how I see the word. And this is how I will say it.
00:12:15 Rachelle
Yes, and he as this grin on his face where it's clear he's aware that this is not how you say that.
00:12:21 Hannah
Cause if he's the CEO of McLaren, he could have easily said like don't upload this to YouTube where everyone will make a meme of me, but he kind of is self-deprecating in that respect he obviously knows this isn't true Italian and people will make fun of him, but like he embraces his authenticity and his Americanness. I'm just thinking he needs a government role if he's going to leave F1, which I don't think he will, but like he truly could represent our country.
00:12:50 Rachelle
Yes, but I don't, I think that's a waste of his skills, like in a diplomatic arena. I think he's meant to represent us in other places where he can have a bigger impact than government.
00:12:59 Hannah
OK, you're right. He should stay in a F1. You're right government beneath Zac Brown. Alright, so the other thing we found was on Etsy. So we were browsing Etsy and Rachelle found some candles that they make that say things like, you could interchange them with any drivers’ name, but it says like smells like Max Verstappen on the label. So, basically this little Etsy shop has like 30 different scents that you can choose from on a list and they can slap whatever label on it that you want. If we had to choose from the list of scents provided we assigned some of the obvious choices of which F1 driver should get these scents. Lewis would obviously be strawberry champagne because all he does is win.
00:13:53 Rachelle
Win, win win no matter what.
00:13:55 Hannah
Yep, and then Lando would be oatmeal, milk, and honey because he loves milk.
00:14:01 Rachelle
And he's a honey.
00:14:02 Hannah
Yes, he's very sweet. Zac Brown would be cashmere and vanilla because he lives a life of luxury, but he's really a vanilla American boy.
00:14:21 Rachelle
Arrivederci
00:14:26 Hannah
And then Carlos Sainz would be Raspberry Sangria because obviously Spain, sangria.
But also, he's like pretty cheery. Like a raspberry. Charles or Charles Leclerc is French lavender and honey, cause he's also very sweet, but also like French, Monaco, you know.Yuki is cherry blossom self-explanatory.
00:14:37 Rachelle
Cause Japan.
00:14:41 Hannah
Yes, Daniel is eucalyptus because. They're both native to Australia.
00:14:49 Rachelle
By the way, the eucalyptus candle is described as pungent, which is not a good sales strategy. Just saying, you don't want a pungent candle.
00:14:55 Rachelle
It's not a good sales strategy, but that is an accurate description of Eucalyptus.
00:15:02 Rachelle
Sure, so just don't have a eucalyptus candle.
00:15:15 Hannah
Do what you suggested. Daniel’s candle inspired by Perth, Australia should be dirt.
00:15:15 Rachelle
Dirt and honey because he's a honey badger and he digs holes in dirt in Perth cause it's a dirty place.
00:15:20 Hannah
How about fresh dirt with a subtle hint of honey.
00:15:22 Rachelle
Mulch? Honey and Mulch.
00:15:28 Hannah
People would be into that.
00:15:35 Rachelle
I think so too so we can do that for you guys.
00:15:38 Hannah
Yeah. For Kimi Räikkönen, we decided that he's Scotch pine, mainly because the description for Scotch pine is that it smells like pine. Which we thought was a very Kimi description. And then, OK, for marshmallow fireside we have two options. First, we thought Bottas could be marshmallow fireside cause he's sweet, but abrasive to the eyes. Not saying he's ugly, but just like.
00:16:13 Rachelle
Stoic and.
00:16:14 Hannah
Yes, he's just jarring to the vision. Yes, much like Burning Marshmallow. Our second option for Marshmallow fireside is Cyril.
00:16:28 Rachelle
Cause he keeps getting burned.
00:16:28 Hannah
OK, yes, over and over again until he's a crisp. OK, so then we had Checo to be caramel macchiato, mainly because he's basic.
00:16:35 Rachelle
but also cause macchiato is Italian and he has the Pope in his car. So there you go.
00:16:50 Hannah
Yes, lastly we have Mazepin, otherwise known as Mazespin. Who is the Froot Loops scent.
00:16:57 Hannah
Yes, which the description said it was an open box of Froot Loops which makes sense cause I find him personally quite stale. Yes, he's bail but also loops around in many spins, so he's Froot Loops.
00:17:15 Hannah
Yes he’s stale, but also loops around in many spins. So he’s Fruit Loops. So those are our candle scent assignments. So before we get into the Baku Grand Prix this weekend, the story that I want to revisit is the 2017 Baku Grand Prix. Because it was crazy.
00:17:35 Rachelle
Gentlemen. A short view back to the past.
00:17:40 Hannah
So, the 2017 Baku Grand Prix the safety car was deployed three times and seven cars retyred. Yeah, it was a lot, and the relevant context leading up to the race was that Hamilton, driving for Mercedes, and Sebastian Vettel, driving for Ferrari at the time, were vying for the first place spot in the 2017 Constructor’s standings. So, there was like a pretty tight rivalry between them. On turn one, Daniil Kvyat, racing for Toro Rosso ran wide and he sent his teammate Carlos Sainz spinning and then also on lap one…
00:18:26 Rachelle
Wait were they both out?
00:18:28 Hannah
No, they actually, they got damaged for sure. I mean, this was pretty devastating, but they weren't out immediately. They kept going in the back. And then also on lap one, Bottas, who was driving for Mercedes, went airborne off a curb, which I wonder if that's the curb they just got rid of for the weekend.
00:18:51 Rachelle
That could be it.
00:19:00 Hannah
But yeah, so he jumped off a curb and collided into Kimi Räikkönen, and it punctured Bottas’ is tyres which forced him to go into the pit lane and he fell a lap behind everybody in P20 as a result.
00:19:07 Rachelle
But what happened to Räikkönen?
00:19:09 Hannah
He limped on. He was not OK, but he didn't have to pit. So, he was in the middle of the pack. And then the debris from Bottas and Kimi’s crash, something got lodged into Daniel Riccardo’s brakes and he was forced to pit, and he had to re-join the race in P17. And at the time, Daniel was driving for Red Bull along with his teammate Max Verstappen. And Verstappen had to retyre the race pretty early on because his engine stopped working. All of a sudden. Unrelated to everything else, he just had to retyre. So anyways, also unrelated to everything else, or actually it might have been somewhat related to the crash that Daniil Kvyat had with Carlos Sainz, Daniil’s car completely stopped working. I don't know why. So, the safety car was called to remove his stranded car from the middle of the track. But this safety car, this first safety car allowed Bottas to unlap himself up. He was still last, but he was able to at least regain the lap he lost from his tyre puncture. And so, then the race resumed, but immediately another safety car was deployed because Kimi Räikkönen had some debris falling off his car. I don't know why, but I think it was also related to maybe his first crash and some breakdown. But yeah, a lot of crashes.
00:20:52 Rachelle
Wait, sorry, dumb question. Is it the same safety car or do they have?
00:20:57 Hannah
In this race there was only the Mercedes safety car.
00:21:00 Rachelle
Oh so, but it’s the same one? They don’t have another one? OK got it.
00:21:03 Hannah
Yeah, no, so the safety car went back to chill and then they're like no, come out again. So, the second safety car period was happening, and both times Hamilton complained that the safety car was going too slow like in order for him to like, keep his tyre warm, like zig zag and brake, it was like going too slow. So, he said that repeatedly over the radio, and while that was going on, Sebastian Vettel ran into the back of Hamilton’s car, damaging Vettel's front wing. So obviously Hamilton was like taken aback by that and then Vettel all of a sudden pulled up next to Hamilton’s car and banged his wheel against Hamilton’s wheel.
00:21:58 Rachelle
On purpose?
00:22:16 Hannah
On purpose. Which was like, I mean, I'm sure it's not unprecedented, but it certainly was not something that happens often. So, apparently Vettel thought that Hamilton committed an offence known in F1 as brake testing, which is when a driver deliberately slows down to throw off the driver behind him.
The reviewers looked at the tapes and, also obviously Hamilton was talking on the radio about how slow the safety car was going and there was no like on Hamilton side, no deliberate attempt to break test, and so Vettel just aggressively banged into Hamilton to send a message.
00:22:26 Rachelle
That’s an expensive message.
00:22:35 Hannah
Yes, we will get more into this in the post-race interviews, but I just want to say like that was one of the biggest events in this race, that Vettel… I mean, who does that like if anything, at least pull up beside Hamilton and flip him off. But you don't need to bang his wheel. So, after that more stuff happened. On lap 20, so, the two Force India drivers, which were Esteban Ocon and Checo. They ended up colliding and created debris and it punctured Ocon’s tyres which dropped him to the back of the field and then Perez lost his front wing, which forced him to retyre completely. And then Räikkönen, from following the two Force India cars and running over their debris, got a tyre puncture as well. I know there's like a lot to follow, but it's literally because everybody had something happen to them, and people were saying even during the race when people were watching, they were only finding out and figuring out what happened, and then like five other things happened. So, it was like very hard to follow cause literally something was happening every minute. But anyways, so because of the Force India collision, a third safety car was deployed, and the race was red flagged because there was so much damaging debris. But during the red flag period, which actually took over 20 minutes, Force India replaced Ocon’s tyres. Ferrari replaced Vettel's front wing. And then Kimi Räikkönen and Checo’s cars, which were retired, actually were fixed so they could re-enter the race. And there was a funny video, which I guess is iconic for Kimi. They were really rushing to fix the car so they can make it in time. So, it was super last minute, and they did finally fix the car and they were pushing Kimi in his car out of the garage.
And Kimi starts screaming “Give me my gloves and steering wheel.” And I’m going to try to play this because it’s just better if you hear him.
[video]
00:25:03 Rachelle
Wait did he get his steering wheel?
00:25:12 Hannah
Yes, he did. He did make it out onto the track with his gloves and steering wheel, but.
00:25:13 Rachelle
Can I just say that this just reinforces the incompetence of the Ferrari engineers? How did they forget his steering wheel?
00:25:31 Hannah
You're right. And he had to ask for it for two minutes. They have no sense of urgency, which really pisses me off.
00:25:41 Rachelle
I mean Europeans are so chill, they're like whatever. We'll stroll over here.
00:25:46 Hannah
Well, it’s Ferrari, Ferrari is known for being fast. Allegedly.
00:25:49 Rachelle
The car not the people. That's what they have the cars for.
00:25:53 Hannah
Right, that makes more sense.
00:25:56 Rachelle
You know when you go to Italy or anywhere in Europe, France, Italy, like and you show up and like stores don't open until like 11 cause they're just chilling. They're like I don't feel like opening it yet.
00:26:10 Hannah
Right and then they also leave at like 3pm. And it’s like, you just opened. Love that life for them, but it's aggravating as an American who needs things on demand at all times.
00:26:18 Rachelle
Agreed, there's like a 5-hour period in Italy when all you can get is Gelato cause everything is closed. Who works like that? You can't have a functioning business if you're closed for half the day.
00:26:34 Hannah
Well, they've been around for centuries. So clearly they can. I don't know how though it's a. It's a mystery to us. OK anyways, so Kimi and Checo were able to make it back and the red flag period was over. And then in lap 31, Hamilton and Vettel were leading the race, but randomly Hamilton headrest, of all things, became loose. Like I need to read you something. “His headrest was drifting up showing off the high impact pink foam lining it as he reached full speed. Within a couple of laps, it was nearly all the way up, making the Mercedes driver look like a helmet sunk into a car that was too big for him.” So, basically and he tried to manually like while he's driving at like 200 MPH, Hamilton tried to make the headrest go down and fix it, but it was, I mean, at that point it became unsafe obviously, to try to do that and it was really getting out of hand. So, race control made him pit to fix it and so he lost his lead. And also at the same time, the reviewers reviewed the earlier incident where Vettel banged into Hamilton's wheel and deemed that Vettel was, in fact, at fault for that, and he had to serve a 10-second penalty for dangerous driving. And so they both actually lost their spots and Vettel re-joined the track in 7th place ahead of Hamilton. And this meant that the lead for the race was given to Ricciardo ahead of Lance Stroll.
00:28:25 Rachelle
What the hell?
00:28:40 Hannah
Yeah no, I mean cause you know, like I was saying like everyone was getting punctured, losing front wings or something. But actually Ricciardo, even though he qualified to start in P10,
and dropped back to P17 at one point, he was able to avoid all the other catastrophes. So, he was in the lead and Lance Stroll was just dilly dallying along. Another notable thing. So, like I said Räikkönen and Checo were both able to re-join the race, but then, upon further review, they found that their cars were actually being worked on and fixed in their garages instead of the pit lane, so they both had to retire.
00:29:12 Rachelle
What?
00:29:14 Hannah
Yeah, no idea.
00:29:14 Rachelle
Oh my God, I'd be so pissed.
00:29:16 Hannah
Yeah, so in total seven cars retired from the race and two cars retired twice. It was crazy. So anyways, Ricciardo was comfortably in the lead, like clearly going to win. And then Lance Stroll, he had a 12 second advantage over Bottas, Vettel, and Hamilton, in that order. Hamilton asked for the Mercedes team to order Bottas to drive, he, Hamilton wanted the team to make Bottas drive slowly in front of Vettel so Hamilton could overtake Vettel. But the team, for once in their lives, the Mercedes team refused to make Bottas work for Hamilton because actually Bottas had the pace to catch up with Stroll in the closing laps. So, they let Bottas go, and Hamilton was pissed.
00:30:09 Rachelle
Wait, so basically the thing Vettel accused Hamilton of doing, the brake whatever, he wanted Bottas to do for him. What a sneaky little bitch! What a snake.
00:30:30 Hannah
Like sacrificing your own family. Anyways, so in conclusion. Ricciardo won after being in P17 near the beginning of the race, so a major comeback for him. Although when people say like, oh but Daniel won Baku. I'm just like, well, seven cars retired, and it was a massive shit show, Hamilton and Vettel had to serve penalties and random pit stops, so. I can't say he should get all the credit but good for him.
00:31:06 Rachelle
As Lando Norris said last week, a good driver capitalizes on other people's misfortune.
00:31:14 Hannah
Right, so he has that under his belt. And then, amazingly, at the very last second from the finish line Bottas passed Lance Stroll. It was literally a metre from the finish line and he took second place by .1 second. A tenth of a second.
00:31:34 Rachelle
I don't know who I'm sad slash happy for.
00:31:37 Hannah
Well, you could be happy because this was actually Lance Stroll’s first podium finish. Lawrence Stroll was beaming with pride. I think he was on the verge of tears.
00:31:50 Rachelle
I'm shocked he didn't cry.
00:31:52 Hannah
Yeah, I'm not.
00:31:53 Rachelle
No, not for Lance. For his team. I don't think he'd cry for Lance. But he could cry for his investment.
00:32:08 Hannah
I mean, he did put a lot of money into Williams, but this was Williams.
00:32:12 Rachelle
Oh
00:32:17 Hannah
He didn't like full on buy out like what he has with Aston Martin right now. So, yeah, so he wasn't invested enough to shed a tear.
00:32:21 Rachelle
Stroll got Williams a podium? Although, as you pointed out, like 15 people dropped.
00:32:28 Hannah
Right, well that's the thing. This whole, there is amazing results from this race, for certain people because of the tragedy of other people.
00:32:34 Rachelle
That’s how life works.
00:32:55 Hannah
Yeah, it's it's a happy occasion cause obviously, even though it would be cool for Lance to get P2, anything on the podium was good enough for Lance and Lawrence. Vettel finished in fourth and Hamilton finished in fifth. So, in terms of the world driver championships, Vettel increase his lead by like 14 points over Hamilton. And this is when we got into the post-race interviews. So, Vettel in his interviews, he didn't directly admit anything, but he also did not deny that he deliberately drove into Hamilton. Although it's pretty clear. So, Vettel said “F1 is for grownups. I drove alongside and we had a little contact. I wasn't happy with the brake testing. I drove alongside him and raised my hand to say that is not the way to do it”. I think he did more than raise his hand. But so, that was Vettel's stance. Hamilton was fuming. He said “clearly a 10-second penalty is not enough for behaviour like that.” Because, I mean Vettel did something super aggressive and finished fourth in a race. So obviously that's not like a major consequence. And Hamilton said, “driving alongside and deliberately driving into a driver and coming away scot-free is a disgrace. He disgraced himself today.” He also said “if he wants to prove he's a man, we should” I don't think he said it, that sassy, but I like to imagine that he did. So, he said “we should do it out of the car, face to face. I don't fancy seeing him. It might turn into something else.”
00:34:28 Rachelle
Lewis!
00:34:31 Hannah
Well, this is what I mean. If you catch Hamilton right after a race, he will unleash.
00:34:35 Rachelle
I think Lewis couldn't take Vettel, car or not.
00:34:39 Hannah
Um…
00:34:28 Rachelle
You think Hamilton could win? Hamilton’s a vegan? He has no muscle strength.
00:34:44 Hannah
I was just, I was just gonna say, where is he going to get the protein for this fight?
00:34:48 Rachelle
Vettel is German. All he eats is bratwurst and beer. Yes,
00:34:52 Hannah
Sausages. Yes. That’s actually the best pre-fight meal. Bratwurst and beer. Cause the bratwurst gives you protein and the beer gives you aggression.
00:34:54 Rachelle
Carbs.
00:35:06 Hannah
Yeah, carbs and aggression. What a great combo meal. So this was Toto’s take on the whole matter. “They are warriors. Now, the gloves are off. The sport needs rivalry. What we have seen today is the ingredient of a great champion.”
00:35:28 Rachelle
What a Toto thing to say.
00:35:32 Hannah
Exactly. Cause, OK, Toto is Austrian. And he likens everything to war. When, he always speaks about F1 as a war and he just thinks every, also a quote from him was “every great success is made from tragedy or embarrassment.”
00:36:00 Rachelle
Is he a Jew? That’s a very Jewish take on the situation.
00:36:01 Hannah
When anything really negative happens, he's just like this is what we need.
00:36:12 Rachelle
Is that why he keeps screwing Bottas over? Is Bottas?
00:36:17 Hannah
I mean maybe, but I don't think that's the main thing cause it's been a while.
00:36:22 Rachelle
Since he screwed Bottas over?
00:36:25 Hannah
Like it's been years that Bottas has taken shit from the Mercedes team.
00:36:30 Rachelle
I have a theory and that is that sportsmen are very superstitious. And so maybe a tragedy happened with Bottas once and then Lewis won, and Toto was like wait a minute.
00:36:47 Hannah
That's why he hijacked the plane this weekend.
00:36:50 Rachelle
We need Lewis to win. Oh my god. We've sussed it out.
00:36:50 Hannah
But you know another thing I forgot to mention was that when Lewis had to pit for the headrest sliding off, Toto did his signature fist pound on his table. Which is also very like German/Austrian-esque.
00:37:06 Rachelle
Breaking the table is very German/Austrian-esque.
00:37:14 Hannah
I think he would have done that, but this is his like appropriate way of doing that.
00:37:15 Rachelle
You know, I think it's mostly Austrian. I don't think Germans break stuff. I think they build stuff in a very fashionable and orderly manner.
00:37:19 Hannah
Love that. So that was the 2017 Baku Grand Prix.
00:37:29 Rachelle
Predictions. Should we do predictions?
00:37:31 Hannah
OK. I haven't thought that far.
00:37:34 Rachelle
I haven't thought that far either, but we were talking about Charles, and it’s just, my dream prediction is that Charles podiums because I think he deserves it after last week.
00:37:45 Hannah
Yes, last week was particularly devastating because it was him not even being able to race in his home race. And also, he had the grace to stay to root for his teammate so if Karma is a thing, he should get all the good karma for Baku.
00:38:11 Rachelle
Yes, he he's deserved it and his eyes literally are just so heart-breaking. I just want to see them happy.
00:38:22 Hannah
Yes, uh, my other prediction, or hope, is that Max does well so he can maintain a slight lead over Hamilton cause right now he's barely leading.
00:38:26 Rachelle
I think he'll win.
00:38:28 Hannah
OK, that's a strong prediction.
00:38:30 Rachelle
I think he’ll win and Lewis will get second.
00:38:33 Hannah
Yeah, I think that's fair.
00:38:36 Hannah
So maybe we could do Max, Lewis, Charles for podiums.
00:38:41 Rachelle
Yeah, Charles is wishful I think but yes. Let’s say that. Daniel Ricciardo is not going to do well, even though for some reason everyone’s like, well, you won last time. And it's like, well, it was an empty street. I do think that the greatest thing Bottas will accomplish this weekend is arriving in Baku..
00:39:02 Hannah
Oh yes. If we didn't mention it, Bottas was found.
00:39:08 Rachelle
He was rediscovered. So good for him.
00:39:13 Hannah
Do you have any predictions for Bottas this weekend?
00:39:18 Rachelle
Yeah, something’s gonna go wrong.
00:39:21 Hannah
Yes, there's like a 90% chance of that.
00:39:26 Rachelle
Yep, we are going to be cooking Azerbaijani food.
00:39:30 Hannah
Yes, I need the recipe for plov.
00:39:37 Hannah
Plov.
00:39:41 Rachelle
I will send you the recipe, but it's just going to have some Azerbaijani ingredients. Well, we'll see you guys… Oh, we have a special guest! We are getting our first guest. It is my friend from uni. His name is Dyaus and he is a diehard Formula One fan. I have forgiven him for not introducing it to me at university. He will be joining us to give us his hot takes on the Baku race. So, keep your ears peeled for that.
00:40:10 Hannah
Yes, I'm very, very excited. And if all goes well, we can hopefully have other guests on so.
00:40:18 Rachelle
If you would like to guest on our podcast, you can email us at boxboxf1pod@gmail.com. You will be vetted. Just because you email us doesn't mean you will be a guest.
00:40:30 Hannah
You either need to bring technical qualifications or extreme dramatic takes.
00:40:38 Rachelle
Or both.
00:40:39 Hannah
Both ideally, but like one is a minimum qualification.
00:40:44 Rachelle
Yes, agreed. If you're not a bitch, and you don't know anything about F1, bye.
00:40:57 Hannah
Before you apply to be a guest on our podcast, you should at the very least listen to our trailer and see if that resonates.
00:40:58 Rachelle
Yeah, in your application, we'd like you to reference what resonated most. In the meantime, follow us on Instagram @boxboxf1pod. We'll see you on Sunday.
00:41:09 Hannah
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00:41:11 Rachelle
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