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00:00:08 Hannah

Hi, I'm Hannah.

00:00:09 Rachelle

Hi, I'm Rachelle and welcome to Box Box F1 pod.

00:00:14 Hannah

So today we're going to recap “Drive to Survive” season one, episodes three and four. And to set the scene, the Monaco Grand Prix, if you don't already know what that is, it's the most famous, prestigious, and glamorous Grand Prix of them all.

00:00:36 Rachelle

If you don't know what the Monaco Grand Prix is, I'm not sure you belong here, so you might as well log off now.

00:00:43 Hannah

It's become my life goal to attend the Monaco Grand Prix.

00:00:48 Rachelle

Yes, but since, because of Covid, we've settled for the Monaco Hotel in Philadelphia.

00:00:54 Hannah

Anywho, the Monaco Grand Prix is really cool. First, because it's a pretty exciting city track and so it's extremely difficult cause it's super narrow and windy.

00:01:04 Rachelle

Yes, and you don't actually need a lot of speed here, which some teams like. It's so many turns that you actually just have to be a pretty good driver.

00:01:13 Hannah

The way it's been described by, in some of the interviews in “Drive to Survive”, so Christian Horner from Red Bull said the Monaco Grand Prix is glitterati, boats, harbor, celebrities. It exudes money and glamour.

00:01:33 Rachelle

Yes. And same concept, but in fewer words, Daniel Ricciardo said, “It's a lot of cool shit in a small space.”

00:01:42 Hannah,

A big highlight for Americans… So, Daniel Ricciardo, who's the Red Bull driver, he… So, everyone’s on a yacht in Monaco and he was on a yacht across from Tom Brady and Gisele who were on another yacht. And they were like a good distance apart and Tom Brady threw an American football to Daniel. And he actually caught it, which I thought was super impressive.

00:02:09 Rachelle

Same, I also did not realize it was Tom Brady and Gisele cause all I saw was Daniel punting it back so I assumed it was a rugby. Also, we were in Monaco. But no. 

00:02:19 Hannah

But Tom Brady, you know.

00:02:24 Rachelle

but Tom Brady really likes to throw footballs off boats. Like he seems to be doing that a lot.

00:02:26 Hannah

Honestly though, I think people make him.

00:02:28 Rachelle

Oh, that's true, probably.

00:02:30 Hannah

Anywhere he goes, someone’s like throw me a football.

00:02:35 Rachelle

But they're not the only celebs we see. We see Kris Jenner, who I'm sure loves Formula 1 one a day-to-day basis.

00:02:45 Hannah

I hope she comes on our podcast for an interview.

00:02:48 Rachelle

I think that's our most likely first guest, is Kris Jenner. And if it's not Kris Jenner, it's going to be Bella Hadid, who was also in Monaco.

00:02:51 Hannah

Yes.

00:02:57 Rachelle

We also saw Hugh Grant, who actually makes the most sense out of these three. He was sipping espresso, so he definitely knows how to watch Formula One.

00:03:08 Hannah

OK, so that's setting the scene from Monaco. And then a team in “Drive to Survive” that hasn't really been highlighted yet and are introduced in Episode 3 is the Williams team. And we first meet Claire Williams, who's the deputy principal for the team. But actually, her dad founded the team in the ‘70s. And they won 16 World Championships throughout the ‘80s and ‘90s but had a severe decline.

00:03:41 Rachelle

They are at the bottom of the grid consistently. And it's like, it's just funny to see how Netflix sets them up to look like the worst team because they show her in a very idyllic and charming like English country home, just as Christian Horner is. But whereas when we saw Christian Horner, there was like peppy music, like I'm going to go pick flowers in the meadow. This was like really somber, tense music that was not idyllic in any sense. So, you know that we're not about to see anything positive, and it was such a downer.

00:04:16 Hannah

It like panned over like shelves in her home, like different rooms with this tense music and legit looked like we were going to end in a murder scene.

00:04:28 Rachelle

Yes, and it's sad because the first thing her husband says is a joke that their son's toy car is faster than a Williams car.

00:04:38 Hannah

Yes, sad.

00:04:39 Rachelle

I don’t think Claire was happy.

00:04:41 Hannah

No, because it's true. On more depressing notes, they conducted a team meeting with like hundreds of people, like the entire Williams organization. Claire said at the moment we don't deserve to win and Williams is literally the slowest team on the track. And she dramatically said, but we are not going to go down the road of a B team. It would be over my dead body. And everyone looked around like, we are though!

00:05:14 Rachelle

We can’t go down that road when we're at the end of that road.

00:05:16 Hannah

They're about to be the Z team. They're competing to exist, which I would say is a bit more dire than a B team.

00:05:29 Rachelle

They’re the Z team.

00:05:31 Hannah

Well, part of the reason why they've been able to survive though, is because of Lance Stroll.

00:05:40 Rachelle

Lawrence Stroll is a billionaire that is obsessed Formula One and does what all obsessed billionaires do and just shoves his money at the problem. And, so, he's funding Williams and his son is a paid driver which was basically like, I will pay for your team if my son gets a seat. Which is common in Formula One. But the term that we prefer over paid driver is daddy driver, which we learned recently and makes me thoroughly uncomfortable. But I will continue using it.

00:06:14 Hannah

But it's extremely accurate because, yeah, like Lance is a daddy boy, he really is.

00:06:23 Rachelle

He doesn't have a choice. His dad is just paying for everything. The one thing Lance’s father did not pay for is like socializing 101 because Lance genuinely looks like he's never seen other human beings in his life. And it's like so, it's so obvious cause they show Lawrence Stroll strolling through the like circuit with like in slow motion and this badass music playing in the background, and some aviators, and like he just looks cool and rich. And then it just sharply cuts to Lance, no music, at normal speed, just like bobbing along the track looking like such a dork.

00:07:07 Hannah

He does give like shy, not nerdy, cause I don't think he reads, but like you know what I mean though? He's like that kid in school who's alone.

00:07:21 Rachelle

Yes, but he seems genuinely very sweet.

00:07:24 Hannah

Yes, yeah, it's not his fault.

00:07:27 Rachelle

And he admits it himself, he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. And it sounds like he spent his entire life with it in his mouth. Popped it out for his Netflix interview and then it went back in.

00:07:38 Hannah

Now we follow the Williams journey through the 2018 Monaco Grand Prix. Claire just hopes and hopes that their little Williams car scores a few points. But it's a tough uphill battle because Williams only has £125. No, £125 million.

00:08:07 Rachelle

They might as well only have 100.

00:08:09 Hannah

Right, it's nothing compared to £400 million from other big teams. Even with Lawrence funding them, it's minuscule compared to the A-Team, so they really you know, are climbing an uphill battle.

00:08:26 Rachelle

Yes, and to score points there about 10 spots behind, so it's a very ambitious goal from Claire. I think her only goal should be not to retire the car during the race, really.

00:08:39 Hannah

We have another Lawrence Stroll cameo.

00:08:43 Rachelle

Yes, it's where he's grumpy that they're not winning and he complains that the seat is not designed well enough. And does like a vertical worm to demonstrate how Lance is jiggling in the seat and it's slightly uncomfortable. You don't want to see such a large man jiggling about.

00:09:03 Hannah

To see a man of that girth.

00:09:05 Rachelle

It would have been worse if they had put it into the same, like slomo music that they were doing for his walking. But to say that Claire does not have any strategy would be a disservice to her because, well, the only strategy she shares with us is that she hopes all the cars pile up on top of each other, so that Lance can just zoom on by.

00:09:29 Hannah

At least she's a realist.

00:09:32 Rachelle

Yes. Because that's the only way Lance is zooming by.

00:09:36 Hannah

But unfortunately, Lance’s car got damaged. There was like a brief collision and his front wing and tires got damaged. And I mean they did repair it and he went back, but just he was too far behind and Lawrence was fuming.

00:09:56 Rachelle

Yes, but like in like one of those ways, you know, like where he's not like throwing stuff cause he's too rich. 

00:09:59 Hannah

No, too rich.

00:10:11 Rachelle

So he like, grasped the railing like staring into the distance and then just walked off. But meanwhile, on literally the other side of the grid is Red Bull. It's a very different vibe over there. We start the episode with Christian at home in Bedfordshire, England with Ginger Spice and their ginger family.

00:10:29 Hannah

And we meet their dogs, Bernie and Flavvy who are named after... So, Bernard Ecclestone is a British like billionaire who owned Formula One like the whole organization at one point. And then Flavvy is named after an Italian business mogul named Flavio, convicted on two charges of fraud and received prison sentences, but, then he got like amnesty.

00:11:04 Rachelle

That was nice of them. He's done so much for the world. Why would they send him to jail? He also has donkeys, like all posh people do, and they are named Max and Danie. They're not actually name that.

00:11:20 Hannah

They might be though.

00:11:22 Rachelle

They might be. And we're introduced the donkeys, and there's just cheerful music playing in the background that just makes it really obvious that those donkeys are owned for fun because I live in the country and not because they farm. I don't think Christian’s ever farmed in his life.

00:11:39 Hannah

No. So, Daniel, I mean he's had some success, but I guess a few ups and downs or just like a longer journey. So, Christian said Daniel is at a crossroads.

00:11:54 Rachelle

And if he doesn't want to be here, that's fine. This is Formula One. It's a big boy sport. Meanwhile, he is saying so much about Max. Like he says Max has got magic dust around him.

00:12:10 Hannah

When Ginger Spice, they're talking about like the upcoming Monaco race and she's like, yeah, like that would be fun and Christian just says, yeah, it'll be good to see Max get a result.

00:12:27 Rachelle

Christian. He pretends there's no favoritism. You see him several times going around giving this like very well-rehearsed spiel about how there are no favored drivers on Red Bull, and everyone is treated equally and they have no intention of having the youngest world champion. That's not the point. But like, it clearly is because when he talks about Max he worships the clean air around him.

00:12:56 Hannah

Yes he does, and I mean everyone knows it. Everyone, including Daniel.

00:13:03 Rachelle

And he understands it, right? Like he said at one point that like everyone, every team would want the youngest world champion like everyone wants that stat. Everyone wants to be the team that got there. So he gets it. It's just frustrating to not be that person. Cause he's almost 30.

00:13:17 Hannah

We also follow Red Bull’s experience in the 2018 Monaco Grand Prix. And Max starts off by crashing at practice. And so he couldn't actually use his car in qualifying, which resulted in him starting last.

00:13:36 Rachelle

So, he started 20th, but he finished 9th, which is an incredible climb, but obviously that wasn't good enough for Max, who obviously has a winner’s mentality, but at the time he was also just like such a douche and like so aggressive and just wanted to prove himself and was so eager that he was literally just like broken.

00:14:00 Hannah

Yeah, and when they were in Monaco like before the race, like on a yacht, he mentioned that he lives in Monaco.

00:14:10 Rachelle

Yeah, a lot of them live in Monaco. His family, first of all, was already loaded, so I think he was rich to begin with.

00:14:15 Hannah

Oh, I see.

00:14:16 Rachelle

And also, he said his mom is there because he was talking about how, he was pointed to a yacht, he's like I've been in that yacht. You have to call people to find them on that yacht, it's so big. And then the guy was like oh so you live in Monaco? So, do you do your own laundry? He's like, no, my mom's here. She does my laundry. So, his family probably also lives there, but.

00:14:35 Hannah

Yeah, is it Max Verstappen or Max Verstappen?

00:14:41 Rachelle

I don't know, he says Max Verstappen, but apparently the Dutch pronunciation is Shtoppen.

00:14:46 Rachelle

In

00:14:47 Hannah

OK.

00:14:47 Hannah

00:14:47 Rachelle

OK, well that Daniel does super well.

00:14:51 Hannah

He does, he wins pole position in Quali.

00:14:57 Hannah

Yes. Quali.

00:15:03 Rachelle

Luckily, his pit stop did not last 10 seconds. This time it was a normal pit stop, but he did have trouble with his engine. It got screwed up and he had no power, which in a normal race would have been just like end of the road. But at Monaco, cause it's so curvy, you don't actually need that much power. You just need to be able to maneuver the car well. And he was at such a lead that that was enough for him. And he won.

00:15:36 Hannah

Yes. But through that entire time cause it was a pretty long time that he was going without any power. Essentially the commentator said, to finish first, first you have to finish.

00:15:50 Rachelle

Well said.

00:15:51 Hannah

Yes, to wrap up episode three, so Daniel ends up winning. Christian’s happy, the whole Red Bull team celebrates in the smallest pool I've ever seen.

00:16:05 Rachelle

Maybe it's like an OK pool if there weren't 40 engineers jumping into it, in which case it became a very small pool.

00:16:11 Hannah

Yeah. So, then we get into Episode 4, which is I think, my favorite episode. It's completely centered on the conflict between Christian Horner from Red Bull and also Cyril Abiteboul from Renault. And it has hardly anything to do with the drivers or races. It's just strictly an interpersonal drama.

00:16:41 Rachelle

Yes, and before like they get into the meat of it, they really preface how Formula One goes beyond the track. It is definitely not just driving. It's called a piranha club. Because people are so vicious towards each other. Christian does a great a little alliteration, he says there's a lot of posturing, positioning, and total paranoia. You always think someone’s out to get you. Chances are they are, especially if it's Christian, but.

00:17:14 Hannah

Yeah, he fails to mention the total paranoia is due to him.

00:17:22 Rachelle

Yes, exactly and then he said… He's great at these one-liners. I don't know if he hired someone to write these. The intro ends with him saying, if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Which is just so dramatic, and you know who can't take the heat? Cyril.

00:17:40 Hannah

Oh, Cyril. To set the scene, Renault has been supplying the engines for Red Bull for the last 12 years. Every race Red Bull has ever won has been with the Renault engine, which Cyril pointed out.

00:17:59 Rachelle

But I think it's also worth mentioning that for every race they've won with a Renault engine, every race they've lost has also been with the Renault engine, so I'm not quite sure that's the best argument. Basically, Red Bull had to make a decision. Renault needed an answer. So, like a big motif throughout this episode, is making choices. And what it means for you.

00:18:21 Hannah

Yes, before we get into the heavy drama. First, we visit Cyril in Paris. And, also worth mentioning, Cyril is the Managing Director of Renault. Renault is partly state-owned. Cyril is obsessed with Paris and he feels that serving the French people is a huge privilege.

00:18:46 Rachelle

Yes, and what a great person to serve and represent the French people. He just exudes French-ness. There’s a whole thing about him like being like stopping a meeting cause it was lunchtime. He's like Bonjour, I am Cyril Abiteboul. I like lunch and I like to eat and, ooh, I like cars.

00:19:11 Hannah

That's Cyril in a nutshell. So Cyril. I mean, I don't think, he's not as aggressive or direct as Christian is when it comes to conflict. But he certainly has the passive aggressiveness to get under people's skin. So, regarding Red Bull, he says Red Bull is a great brand. To drink.

00:19:39 Rachelle

He's not wrong.

00:19:40 Hannah

He's not, well, actually. It's not a great brand to drink.

00:19:45 Rachelle

No, it's not. It’s pretty awful.

00:19:47 Hannah

Like I get where he was going, but has he had one? Cause no one would say that.

00:19:55 Rachelle

No, but also, I think it was double shade because like Renault is like I think one of the OG F1 teams, so there's a lot of prestige and history, and they turn their noses up at an energy drink being like I could make a car, which they can't actually, they have to buy their parts.

00:20:02 Hannah

So Christian Horner highlights again in interviews that Red Bull's Achilles heel is the engine. With Renault, they've had a love-hate relationship for the last 12 years. And he feels like Red Bull is paying to fly first class, but they got stuck with an economy ticket.

00:20:38 Rachelle

In between his spiels about how the engine sucks balls, he also talks about how Daniel is staying on the team and how great Daniel is and how much he loves Daniel and how he's a great part of the team. But it's a very PR-y, like rehearsed spiel, it doesn't sound like he actually genuinely has those feelings. It's nothing like when he talks about Max.

00:21:03 Hannah

No, with Max he uses very colorful words. But when he talks about Daniel, he says we are confident we will retain Daniel in the next year and we've enjoyed our time with him.

00:21:17 Rachelle

Yes, that that will really get Daniel to stay. I can just feel the love.

00:21:21 Hannah

Exactly. So, all of this engine talk leads to the Austrian Grand Prix. Red Bull, the whole company, is headquartered in Austria, so this is actually Red Bull's home turf. And it was a highly embarrassing loss, because the engine issues were so bad, they just like stopped working and it caused early retirements for like all four cars, like, both Red Bull cars and both Renault cars. Cause they all use Renault engines.

00:21:55 Rachelle

Yes, and Nico Hülkenberg, who drives for Renault, his engine was literally on fire, like a giant, like fire. And the engineer was like, maybe you should stop the car. Maybe pull over if you can, you're on fire. And then Cyril is like, I don't know, the engine’s fine there's no problem with the engine.

00:22:16 Hannah

They're in denial.

00:22:18 Rachelle

Yes.

00:22:19 Hannah

Yeah, so that was like the race that really, just, they were like we cannot continue like this. But, weaved into the engine drama is Daniel Ricciardo’s storyline.

00:22:35 Rachelle

Yes, his contract is over. And he is faced with choices, should he go to Mercedes, should he go to Ferrari. You know, he's a great driver, he's won so many races. Or, does he stay with what he knows and be loyal to a team that clearly loves Max. He doesn't know, and it kind of sounds like he's having a midlife crisis. He keeps going, I'm 30, I'm 30. I want another tattoo.

00:23:02 Hannah

Well, that's because it was his birthday.

00:23:06 Rachelle

So, Daniel had some questionable content this episode. First of all, after talking to his mother on the phone, he said goodbye by saying all right, gangster. To his mother. Which I find slightly appalling. But more appalling than that, was a song that he made up, “ad hoc”. Would you like to read it, or?

00:23:29 Hannah

No. you should.

00:23:31 Rachelle

OK. It went a little something like this. “I just want to tickle my scrotum and touch my nut sack. People would argue that they are the same thing. Maybe they are, but scrotum is ticklish. Ticklish, it is”.  And then he turned to his comms lady and was like, how was that?

00:23:52 Hannah

We do not know how to address this properly.

00:23:56 Rachelle

No, I think I think the best approach is to erase it from our collective memories.

00:24:03 Hannah

Yes.

00:24:05 Rachelle

Will we have to label this episode as mature?

00:24:09 Hannah

Explicit content. Daniel is obsessed with tattoos, which he pronounces ta-dos.

00:24:20 Rachelle

That's what Daniel does, he's a doer. Ta-do, ta-do. 

00:24:22 Hannah

Ta-do. Alrighty, so back to the Red Bull-Renault engine saga. So, Red Bull ultimately decides to leave Renault and signs an engine deal with Honda to start in the 2019 season.

00:24:40 Rachelle

Christian has decided he wants to be with a manufacturer that allows him to have an input on engine design. To create true harmony between engine and chassis, chassis, chassis… that other car part.

00:25:00 Hannah

Yeah, the awkward thing is that they held a press conference and put Cyril and Christian next to each other.

00:25:08 Rachelle

No, they put someone in between them.

00:25:12 Hannah

Who was that? It must have been so uncomfortable.

00:25:15 Rachelle

I you think it was the McLaren principal at the time. He was just laughing. He's like, why am I in the middle of this?

00:25:24 Hannah

Yes cause, basically the press asked like, Cyril, how do you feel about Red Bull dumping you?

00:25:34 Rachelle

The margin of the money was not that good anyways.

00:25:39 Hannah

But then Christian makes a hand gesture, like putting his hands like two feet apart, to show, actually the margins were quite large.

00:25:49 Rachelle

Yes, and Cyril spends a lot of time this episode trying to prove to everyone how much money they have. Like we have so much money, the margin, we don't need them. We have so much budget.

00:26:02 Hannah

It is not believable. The more he says we do not need the money, the more apparent it is they need the money.

00:26:10 Rachelle

Yes, look at Lawrence Stroll. That man has never said I have money in his life. You just know by looking at him. Cyril does not do that.

00:26:22 Hannah

Yes, and after the press conference, just, the tension between them continued as they separated after they left the press conference and did separate interviews. And the reporters were asking Christian, so that didn't seem like that was a happy marriage, was it? And Christian said it was like we were staying together for the children rather than love.

00:26:51 Rachelle

Meanwhile, Cyril was like, uh, I am sad because it was 12 years of my life dealing with Christian. And I don't know what to do.

00:27:03 Hannah

Cyril is heartbroken and devastated and feels…

00:27:08 Rachelle

Betrayed.

00:27:09 Hannah

Yeah, like he's been betrayed. Christian is scheming around having a blast because he essentially just got a divorce and he's acting like he’s on top of the world.

00:27:20 Rachelle

He literally walks away from the press conference and turns to his like guy and goes, well, that was juicy, wasn't it?

00:27:27 Hannah

Meanwhile, Cyril’s crying his eyes out.

00:27:32 Rachelle

Oh man, poor Cyril. But he got him back! 

00:27:37 Hannah

Yep, so the whole reason why the Daniel storyline was even interweaved in this whole thing is because, actually, to like add to the drama and kind of twist the knife in. Daniel decided to leave Red Bull to join, of all teams, he decided to join Renault.

00:27:59 Rachelle

Which also no one understood. He was like, well, we don't know anything about the Honda engine. Why would I stay with such a questionable engine? And like, you're choosing the engine that has blown up on you multiple times.

00:28:12 Hannah

But we do like that Cyril says…

00:28:16 Rachelle

You need a driver and an engine. *giggle*

00:28:20 Hannah

He giggles at the end, it's so funny. 

00:28:24 Rachelle

I don't know why he tried to go to war with words with Christian.

00:28:30 Hannah

Christian is not amused. He says, do you have any money left now that you've spent it all on the driver?

00:28:39 Rachelle

And Cyril grimaces and goes plenty. He literally says, in a press conference, that Renault can afford pretty much anything he knows. The largest carmaker in F1 full stop. And all the journalists are like cracking up because like dude, chill.

00:28:57 Hannah

Yeah, so another press conference with the two of them. Cyril is asked like how this deal with Daniel kind of came about and Cyril, gleefully says,

00:29:09 Rachelle

Daniel and I have been joking about this for a while. It would be hard to put an exact date on the ah, first joke.

00:29:21 Hannah

And Christian just looks, he glares over like, kind of appalled that he would treat this as a joking matter. And, you know, in that moment Christian was working up a scheme to exact his revenge on Cyril.

00:29:40 Rachelle

He also very dramatically, says Daniel can do whatever he wants as long as he's comfortable looking at himself in the mirror.

00:29:48 Hannah

Then we cut to Daniel, who is running outside on stairs, up a cliff, and looking out into the water with a voiceover that he was thinking about staying at Red Bull. But then, he looks out into the water and thinks, but what if I didn't? And he jumps. And he's like I'm going to go to Renault. It's a fresh start and he looks happy and gleeful splashing around.

00:30:15 Rachelle

Yes, exactly, and that was obviously metaphorical for his jump into the unknown.

00:30:22 Hannah

But also the known engine.

00:30:24 Rachelle

Daniel also has a manager who was shown contemplating the next decision. And he looks like he owns a shady yoga retreat. He's like this bald man in front of a forest background and like a baggy white shirt and linen pants.

00:30:42 Hannah

Just imagine a man named Glenn Beavis.

00:30:46 Rachelle

Yes, and as Hannah wrote here, absolutely nothing good can come from a man with that name.

00:30:54 Hannah

Yeah.

00:30:55 Rachelle

This episode ends with a really sad scene of Carlos and Caco getting media trained on how to respond to the fact that he was basically fired. He wasn't actually fired, I don't think. I think they just hired Daniel, and then he was gone. It's OK though, because Carlos had better things coming his way and he doesn't have to be banana yellow anymore.

00:31:21 Hannah

And that wraps up episodes three and four.

00:31:25 Rachelle

Woo. It also leads us to a new segment we'd like to introduce, and this seemed like a great episode to do that in because we love Cyril. I don't know if you could tell. And not to give you guys any spoilers, but this is real life and. I watched the Freddie Mercury movie with my friend, and I said it's so sad he died from AIDS and she went, he's gay?! And dead?!

00:31:53 Rachelle

And I was like you could literally. Google that. I think everyone knows that. Anyway.

00:31:56 Hannah

Yeah, I don't think spoilers apply to real life.

00:32:01 Rachelle

OK, then we will tell you that Cyril is no longer with Renault in 2021.

00:32:07 Hannah

And it was an abrupt, sudden departure.

00:32:11 Rachelle

Yes, and we don't know where the hell he was until today. He disappeared for five months and today we found out he got a new job. And, this is the power of words, that we've adjusted the name of the segment to where in the world was Cyril.

00:32:28 Hannah

Should we also talk about the tattoo bet?

00:32:31 Rachelle

Yes, Daniel and Cyril came to an agreement that if Daniel were to get podium, Cyril, had to get a tattoo, ta-do, of Daniel’s choosing. And I don't know if you can tell, but Cyril is not a tattoo kind of man. So, this was a big commitment from him.

00:32:50 Hannah

Well, with Cyril’s sudden departure, Daniel did not know where he was, so they couldn't get their tattoo, because Daniel really wants to be there, like in person with him, while he gets it. But yeah, he was missing in action. But in the meantime, Daniel did tell the press what he would like the tattoo to be.

00:33:12 Rachelle

Daniel calls himself the Honey Beaver, no.

00:33:14 Hannah

Badger

00:33:14 Rachelle

The Honey Badger. The ruthless Honey Badger. And so that Cyril could remember for him forever. What I don't think Daniel realizes that the Cyril will never forget him. I don't think he needs a permanent mark on his body to remember him. But yeah, so he wants him to get a honey badger like peeking out from behind some hands.

00:33:36 Hannah

I personally think Cyril should get a tramp stamp cause then the Honey Badger will be peeking out of his pants. If any of the F1 principals were to get a tramp stamp it would be…

00:33:51 Rachelle

It would be Cyril, especially for the reasons that he's getting it, which is to commemorate his beautiful relationship.

00:33:56 Hannah

Lost lover.

00:33:57 Rachelle

Yes, but motor lover.

00:34:03 Rachelle

Cyril, really loved the friendship he and Daniel shared and when Daniel left it broke Cyril’s heart. So we think one of the things that thrill was up to in his time away was getting a tramp stamp of a honey Badger. Do you have any ideas where Cyril was in the last five months? DM us. Or email us.

00:34:31 Hannah

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00:34:41 Rachelle

Yes, send us your ideas, questions, criticisms, but address it to me if you have any critiques. We've already been told we sound too American, but not much we can do about that.

00:34:56 Hannah

Nope, we are not changing our identities.

00:35:00 Rachelle

No, although I wish I could. I would rather be an ambiguous European.

00:35:06 Hannah

I want to be as French as Cyril.

00:35:10 Rachelle

I want to be Monégasque just so I can tell people I’m Monégasque.

00:35:12 Hannah

Oh yes.

00:35:17 Rachelle

Anyway, We hope you enjoyed “Drive to Survive.” We'll see you in a few days in Spain.

00:35:24 Hannah

Alrighty. Box box.

00:35:24 Rachelle

Box box.