14. Remembering Singapore 2008 | F1 stories

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00:00:08 Hannah 

Hi, I'm Hannah. 

00:00:09 Rachelle 

Hi, I'm Rachelle and welcome to Box Box F1 Pod. We are doing a special episode in honor of the cancelled Singapore Grand Prix. We were very excited for it, so instead of looking to the future, we're going to revisit a Singapore Grand Prix from the past. But before we do that, it's time for our digital roundup. 

00:00:35 Hannah 

And today's digital roundup actually has to do with ourselves. Because we are famous. We can't believe it actually because it happened so suddenly. We, today, surpassed 1000 podcast downloads. Largely thanks to the random strangers on social media, we've been able to interact with in the last three days. 

00:01:09 Rachelle 

Yes, we’re basically household names. You can't say the word box without people saying the podcast? That’s our influence in just three days. 

00:01:11 Hannah 

Box Box F1 Pod! It all started with TikTok. 

00:01:17 Rachelle 

We resisted for a long time. 

00:01:29 Hannah 

Yes, because, I mean, it's just a scary place in there, honestly. Every time you open it, it just starts playing videos without any warning. So, we didn't know how to figure that out, but then we started uploading things and you know they were doing fine like a few 100 views here and there, but suddenly we caught over 34,000 views on one of our TikToks. And endless likes and comments that have just been flowing in throughout the last three days. And I really appreciate the comments because two things are clear from our TikTok commentors. Everyone loves Christian Horner. 

00:02:08 Rachelle 

Except for Dyaus.

00:02:08 Hannah 

Right, people were a bit upset that Dyaus, who was our guest on our last episode, he said he didn't like Christian that much. And the commenters came out of the woodwork to say Christian is the man or something like that. I’m not really sure what they said. There's been so many. 

00:02:29 Rachelle 

There's a lot. There's a lot of pro-Christian content and a lot of, well, not a lot, of there's no anti-Dyaus comments. Cause he’s funny about it.

00:02:37 Hannah 

No. One man said “My respect for this man has gone down.”

00:02:41 Rachelle  

With two graphs going down. 

00:02:48 Hannah 

Although another man said clearly, this lad has to keep the comedy alive. 

00:02:55 Rachelle 

Because of these two lasses that are there with him. Unfortunately, he's a little bit beige. Which is somehow rude and sexist and downright weird. And all in one comment.

00:03:11 Hannah 

But anyways, other than that one man there hasn't been a lot of... 

00:03:15 Rachelle 

But that’s how you know we made it. Because once you've got your haters, you are on track for global success. 

00:03:22 Hannah 

Yes, basically, in today's economy, getting your first troll is like getting your first dollar. 

00:03:28 Rachelle 

Are we gonna frame it?

00:03:30 Hannah 

Yeah, we need to print out, on each social media platform, our first troll and put it on our walls. Anywho, So, we we're doing phenomenal on TikTok. And then we decided to give it another go on Instagram which has been a bit lackluster. 

00:03:55 Rachelle 

I will say that in the last episode, Dyaus took the piss that we are jealous of Roscoe cause he has more followers than us and I said, yeah, we have 32 followers. We now have 70 so that was like 4 days ago. So I’m just saying.

00:04:09 Hannah 

The most important thing is that we have more followers now than those we are following, so our ratio is pretty good. But then, I went to Roscoe's Instagram. He has 327,000 followers and he's following 17. 

00:04:27 Rachelle 

Oh wow picky guy. 

00:04:30 Hannah 

I mean, he's vegan. 

00:04:33 Rachelle 

He doesn’t like to clog his body or his feed. 

00:04:40 Hannah 

So we’re still considerably behind Roscoe, but I don't think we're as envious anymore. So, our reels have been blowing up. Like I haven't, it's just randomly a real we’ve posted a few days ago suddenly blows up and everyone likes it. But most importantly, we created a meme. Actually, Rachelle single-handedly created this meme. 

00:05:02 Rachelle 

You can tell because it’s significantly worse than the rest of our memes.

00:05:05 Hannah 

But did so well. Because The Bachelorette premiered on Monday, and one of the men showed up in a gift box. Rachelle put this gift box man into a pit lane and said, the box is box boxing. It is truly the Formula One/ Bachelor crossover no one knew they needed. 

00:05:30 Rachelle 

Which we know because it was repeated in the comments several times. Over and over and over again. I did not know I needed this.

00:05:36 Hannah 

Yeah, but someone literally messaged us like thank you for your service. 

00:05:45 Rachelle 

That was, we made a second Bachelor meme, which is what he was referencing. Which, cause I posted it in Formula Dank on Reddit and in the Bachelor subreddit and it was of Daniel. This one was made, this was all Hannah. She photoshopped Daniel Riccicardo’s face on the Bachelor’s promo thing and then put all of his former. 

00:06:07 Hannah 

Ex-boyfriends. 

00:06:09 Rachelle 

Ex-boyfriend slash team principals on the poster and wrote fourth times the charm. 

00:06:15 Hannah 

Yes, well, it's a call back to Nick Viall’s season cause he's had failed attempts on different Bachelorette seasons. So, we put for Daniel, his failed relationship with Christian Horner on Red Bull. His infamous breakup with Cyril on Renault. He's technically still trapped in a relationship with Zak Brown, but everyone knows there is zero chemistry and it's literally because they have a contract, so it's like a broken marriage. 

00:06:43 Rachelle 

Yeah, which is sad cause we love both of them individually. 

00:06:47 Hannah 

Yeah, they just they just don't click. Which is fine.

00:06:51 Rachelle 

We just want Daniel to find his groove and it sounds like a lot of other people do too. 

00:06:55 Hannah 

In Formula Dank, there’s.

00:07:03 Rachelle 

Never say dank again. 

00:07:07 Hannah 

Why is this the main page? So, on Formula Dank. It's not very enthusiastic, 

00:07:16 Rachelle 

It's just some puns. There's two puns. But that's like a very calm reaction. Like, we enjoy this, but.

00:07:17 Hannah 

Wait say the pun.

00:07:22 Rachelle 

One was the honey bachelor. 

00:07:27 Hannah 

Yeah, which we love. 

00:07:28 Rachelle 

And the other one was Bachelor and Ricciardo combined and I'll let y'all figure that one. Bacciardo?

00:07:34 Hannah 

Bacciardo? Whereas on the bachelor subreddit there's.

00:07:34 Rachelle 

People are much hornier.

00:07:43 Hannah 

Yeah so people are hornier in that they're like Carlos and Charles could get it. And it's like they're not even in this meme. 

00:07:54 Rachelle 

Imagine if someone left that in Formula Dank. 

00:08:00 Hannah 

But also, they're much more creative and imaginative cause they're like, they looked at our meme and then they're like, what if there's a whole episode on all of the Formula drivers as contestants on The Bachelorette? Like who would be booted on night one? Who would win first impression? Who would make it to fantasy suites? 

00:08:23 Rachelle 

There were a lot of opinions on fantasy suites. 

00:08:25 Hannah 

A lot. And we will absolutely address this critical topic, but we'll wait till the end of the episode. 

00:08:33 Rachelle 

Yes, so stick around. 

00:08:35 Hannah 

But just one more thing, on Instagram, Juliet Litman, who is the head of production at The Ringer and the host of the Bachelor Party Pod, which is a great podcast. She actually shared our meme of the gift box man in the pitlane and said, this is my demo. Because she loves F1 and Drive to Survive. And obviously the Bachelor. So, she was all about this crossover. And when I saw that Juliet shared our story on Instagram, I literally screamed in a public space and at the time I was with a co-worker and she's like, oh my God, what? Did a guy text you? And I was like no, even better. But then I had to explain, a podcast host of The Bachelorette shared a meme that our podcast made, and it just didn't sound as good as it really is. But if you understand us and this crossover, you will appreciate this a lot. 

00:09:47 Rachelle 

Yes, it's a, if you know you know situation. 

00:09:50 Rachelle 

I tried to shoot my shot, our shot, with Juliet and told her to start with the Monaco episode if she listened. 

00:09:51 Hannah 

Monaco is one of our best for sure. Our Drive to Survive recaps that we've done so far are pretty good yeah, but. 

00:10:08 Rachelle

By the way we will pick those up again when there's a bit of an off but we just have too much to cover. 

00:10:11 Hannah 

There's so much content and Drive to Survive will always be there to recap. But yeah, I would say my favourites are Monaco, Taki, Cars. 

00:10:21 Rachelle 

That’s not to say that we didn't love having Dyaus and we hope now we'll have him again. He was incredible. 

00:10:27 Hannah 

Almost too good. He made us so viral on TikTok, they might be expecting something different now.

00:10:44 Rachelle 

Yes, so he set the expectations a little too high for what we could probably deliver. Or different. He set expectations different. 

00:10:44 Hannah 

Yeah, but we'll try to appease everyone, even though we have such a diverse audience now. 

00:10:50 Rachelle 

I know, so that was for the Bachelor fans. And now for the F1 fans or the history buffs or both. 

00:10:58 Hannah 

So, the Singapore Grand Prix started in 2008 and it's known for being very hot but also very beautiful. It's one of the few night races, so the city’s all lit up. It's known for being a very overwhelming and tiring race because it's so hot and requires a lot of focus. 

00:11:23 Rachelle 

So, you see, like in Drive to Survive, you saw all of them like taking ice baths in trash cans. You'd think they'd be able to afford like, I don’t know not trash cans. 

00:11:31 Hannah 

Why can't they just take a bath in a bathtub and put ice in it? 

00:11:35 Rachelle 

Because they're in the paddock. 

00:11:36 Hannah 

Oh.

00:11:37 Rachelle 

But like they could at least get like a, blow up pool, like a kiddie pool. 

00:11:41 Hannah 

Yeah, that sounds nice. A bit emasculating. 

00:11:46 Rachelle

Better than a trash can!

00:11:47 Hannah 

No, that's all the rage. No, but that's what athletes do.

00:11:48 Rachelle 

What? 

00:12:00 Hannah 

Yeah, in soccer, American football, but in all sports is what I'm trying to say. Across all continents. 

00:12:03 Rachelle 

They can’t afford like a portable bath thing?

00:12:08 Hannah 

I mean yes, they could, but doing it in a trash can means you're true athlete.

00:12:08 Rachelle 

Oh.

00:12:08 Hannah 

Other sports also have to like do ice baths, like you know like adjacent to fields or places where like you have to have something super easily transportable. And what's more transportable than a trash can on wheels?

00:12:23 Rachelle 

Though the best clip is Max in there, cause he genuinely looks like Oscar the Grouch.

00:12:29 Hannah 

Yeah he does. Anywho, that's the Singapore Grand Prix.

00:12:31 Rachelle 

So, I'm going to tell the story of the Singapore Grand Prix, the inaugural Singapore Grand Prix in 2008. Before we begin, I'm going to give you some sample headlines that graced the newspapers at the time. So, like use your imagination, you know, like in movies. When newspapers like circle in and it like zooms in on the headline and then a different one, does you know what I mean? That's what I want you to visualize. Gentlemen, a short view back to the past. So, headline one: “Singapore Grand Prix 2008: The Infamous Crash Gate Incident Which Shook Formula One Massively.” Next headline, “The Singapore Scandal: Alonso's Controversial Win of 2008.” Headline three, “Briatore says he sacrificed himself for the team.” Headline four, “Disgraced F1 pair could face extradition.” And then lots of crashgate, crashgate, crashgate. So, I want to emphasize all the adjectives here. Disgraced, scandal, controversial, cgate, infamous. This is the most dramatic race in F1 history. 

00:13:48 Hannah 

I think we got it.  

00:13:58 Rachelle 

I just really want to set the scene. 

00:14:01 Hannah 

You read all the headlines and then picked every word. We understand you're trying to set the scene. 

00:14:08 Rachelle 

OK, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. As I talk, it'll feel a bit like an alternate universe for people who are fresh to Formula One because all the drivers are all over the place, that is unfamiliar. So just bear with me. So, the focus is on Renault. And they have not won in two years by this point, which seems to be always the case with for Renault. They’re always like two years behind a win. At the time, their two drivers were Fernando Alonso and Nelson Piquet Jr. I want everyone to visualize Fernando, not now in his old man aesthetic, but young and fresh and just off of his double-back championship wins in 2005 and 2006, so he's super good. And he had a great free practice and a great Quali. But in Q2, he had a mechanical issue. Which again is Renault fault as per and Alonso had to start from 15th. But leading the grid was Felipe Massa for Ferrari, Hamilton for McLaren, and Kimi Räikkönen, also for Ferrari. And he is the current world championship champion which you cannot tell by his performance in this race. 

00:15:21 Hannah 

This really does feel like an alternate universe. This makes no sense.

00:15:28 Rachelle 

I know. Then behind them, is Robert Kubica, who for Drive to Survive fans, you might remember was at Williams, with George, for a hot minute before he got replaced by Latifi. He's that old Polish guy who was really good and then crashed. And then was just old. And in 5th place was Heikki Kovalainen, who was the token second Finn guy on the grid. At the very beginning, Heikke tried to overtake Kubica in turn three, in the very first lap and they made contact. They were OK. But they immediately dropped down the grid after that, so they were screwed. This is the first incident that shook things up. But the big incident, when shit really went down, was in lap 14 when Renault’s Nelson Piquet Jr., who is a Brazilian, crashed into the wall, like aggressively and the safety car came out. 

00:16:26 Hannah 

I just have to say something. I'm pretty sure Nelson Piquet Jr. is related to Kelly Piquet, who is Max Verstappen’s current girlfriend. 

00:16:41  Rachelle

That’s him? Oh OK. Well, that puts things into perspective. Not really. There's nothing. She really likes her F1. OK, so the safety car comes out because Nelson Piquet Jr. has rammed into the wall in lap 14. The pit lane is closed, but Nico Rosberg, the scary looking man who won from Lewis and then retired immediately after cause it was too draining. He and Kubica both had to pit during the time the pit lane was closed, because they were both low on fuel. And this is when we were allowed to refuel, and they later got penalized for this, but no one else is allowed to pit. But as soon as the pit lane opened, everyone else pitted except for Fernando Alonso, who had already done his pit stop earlier. But because everyone pitted at once, it was a whole mess. Ferrari had to stack their drivers so Massa and Räikkönen came in at basically the same time. And as usual, Ferrari engineers are panicking whether there's something happening or not. They're in full panic mode always. And press the green light for Massa to leave before they removed the fuel hose from his car. So, he drove halfway through the pit lane with the hose still stuck in his car, so they like, just like jogged after him, to remove the hose. But this made him lose several spots. And he was first, and he's very good at this point in time. In lap 40-something, Mass spun, a la Mazepin, and bumped into the tire wall, but he was OK. But later a different driver crashed in the exact same corner and was forced to retire. And this man was the 5th retirement of the night. Five people had retired. But this retirement was bad enough to bring out the second safety car, which allowed Kimi to move up into 5th. But then he tried, he got a little ballsy and tried to overtake into 4th and crashed into the tire wall. And ended up finishing last. So, the two Ferraris who were in first and third were now the bottom two of the race, minus the five people that retired. So, at this point, Rosberg is in the lead. But then the FIA got their crap together and started handing out penalties left and right. Rosberg had to do a drive through the pit lane, because of the whole refuelling situation, a bunch of other people had like 10-second pit stops. It was a whole mess, but this allowed Alonso to work his way up to first place. And he won. I know it was a huge 15th to 1st, that's amazing and it was a great for Alonso and it was great for Renault, cause it was the first win in years. But, as always, there are conspiracy theories floating around in the F1 world. Even still in the paddocks when Massa, apparently after the race, like ran over to the Renault garages and he started yelling at them that they had intentionally, like made that crash happen with Piquet at the beginning, in lap 14, they said they orchestrated it. But nothing really happened about those accusations the sort of like drifted away until next year in 2009. Halfway through the year, Piquet got dropped from Renault and replaced by Romain Grosjean, which is, how bad did you have to be to be replaced by Romain Grosjean?  And then, as all grumpy ex-employees do, he started making noise. I will read you the quotes he said. First, the one he said right after the race which was that “from the start of the race, things were complicated and I had a lot of graining and the situation got worse and worse. The team asked me to push, which I tried to do and finally I lost the rear of my car. I hit the wall heavily but I'm OK. I am disappointed with my race but obviously very happy for the team this evening.” This was right after the race. Fast forward a year, he said, “The proposal to deliberately cause an accident was made to me shortly before the race took place, when I was summoned by Mr. Briatore and Mr. Symonds in Mr. Briatore office. Mr. Symonds, in the presence of Mr. Briatore, asked me if I would be willing to sacrifice my race for the team by “causing a safety car”. Every F1 race driver knows that the safety car is deployed on a track when there is an accident that leads to the track being blocked either by debris or a stationary car, and where it is difficult to recover a damaged car, as was the case here.” “At the time of this conversation, I was in a very fragile and emotional state of mind. The state of mind was brought about by intense stress due to the fact that Mr. Briatore had refused to inform me of whether or not my driver's contract would be renewed for the next racing year, as is customarily the case in the middle of the year (around July or August). Instead, Mr. Briatore repeatedly requested me to sign an “option”, which meant that I was not allowed to negotiate with other teams in the meantime. He would repeatedly put pressure on me to prolong the option I had signed, and would regularly summon me to his office to discuss these renewals, even on racing days – a moment which should be a moment of concentration and relaxation before the race.” He said a lot more. This is a long quote, but you get the picture. He was salty. And so then the FIA starts investigating. He got dropped. somewhere mid-year. In September 2009, a year after the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix. Renault was officially charged with conspiracy. Flavio Briatore, the team boss, and Pat Symonds, director of engineering, both left. Briatore was banned for life, and Symonds was given a five-year ban. And these were overturned in French court. I don't know how the French court got involved, but they were overturned in French court, but they had to promise to never work for any F1 organization again. Isn't Briatore the guy that Christian Horner named his dog after? 

00:22:27 Hannah 

Yes, Christian Horner named his dog Flavi after Flavio Briatore. It wasn't just this that he got in trouble for. I think there was more serious. 

00:22:29 Rachelle 

I thought the other one who got in trouble.

00:22:40 Hannah 

They were corrupt in many ways, yes, evidently and God. I'm on his Wikipedia. It says he's a circled member of Jeffrey Epstein's black book of contacts, which has led to some controversy. You wouldn't say. But yes Christian loves him or hates him. 

00:23:00 Rachelle 

Or hates him. He named his dog after him. 

00:23:04 Hannah 

Yeah, but usually you love your dog, but they are, that's a bit degrading so. 

00:23:09 Rachelle 

OK, our family friends name their dog Benji and then their family friends got so pissed at them because their son's name was Benji that they stopped talking to them. They haven't spoken in like 10 years and they were friends of like 30 years cause they took it so personally. So who knows. Could be a huge insult.

00:23:24 Hannah 

Or an honour. 

00:23:30 Rachelle 

Either way, either way Renault was disqualified from F1, but the disqualification was suspended for two years as long as they didn't screw up again. 

00:23:51 Hannah 

OK, basically F1, because it's full of millionaires and billionaires. Their punishments reflect that. 

Like there's zero actual consequences. Just things that they think would be mildly harmful to their image, but no one really cares and people move on. 

00:24:05 Rachelle 

That is that story. I don't know why no one's turned into a movie yet. That sounds like a whole thing. I hope you enjoyed the ride. The end. 

00:24:15 Hannah 

I did, thank you. So, if you've made it this long, you deserve to know what would happen if all of the current F1 drivers were contestants on The Bachelorette. Thanks to Reddit, we know exactly what would happen. Right off the bat, Kimi Räikkönen, the stoic Finn, would, cause people were like, oh, he might have a tough time. cause, you know he might be shy or hard to talk to. But then someone said no problem, he would just self-eliminate. So, then someone said Kimi would be drinking in the corner and not speaking the whole night. Then just walk out on night one before the rose ceremony and go to his yacht. 

00:25:07 Rachelle 

He did that after a race.

00:25:09 Hannah 

Right exactly that's why they're saying he would do the exact same thing if he were on The Bachelorette for some reason. So, Kimi would self-eliminate on night one in terms of the first impression rose, people were saying Daniel or Carlos. I mean, I think Daniel’s a great contender for it cause like, if you've seen Drive to Survive, he does a really good job at leaving a first impression. 

00:25:37 Rachelle 

And we can tell by our Reddit comments.

00:25:40 Hannah 

Oh, people love Daniel. 

00:25:40 Rachelle 

People were impressed by Daniel. 

00:25:43 Hannah 

People were like oh my God, if he was the next bachelor, I'd moved to Australia immediately and then some other commenter put “Googling how to get Australian citizenship now.”

00:25:55 Rachelle 

Daniel lives in LA guys. He's very accessible. 

00:25:58 Hannah 

Yes, you don't need to get citizenship to go on The Bachelor. 

00:26:02 Rachelle 

I would like to make an addition to these. I think that the one who keeps interrupting, you know there's always that person. 

00:26:09 Hannah 

Yeah, like can I steal you for a second? 

00:26:12 Rachelle 

Yeah. Would be George. 

00:26:18 Hannah 

Yeah. Especially when The Bachelorette is talking to Bottas. Which sadly, everyone on Reddit agreed that Bottas would have to go home on night one, because that would be the most boring conversation ever. That's not me saying that, that's everybody else in the world. 

00:26:33 Rachelle 

No, yeah, that’s Reddit. 

00:26:35 Hannah 

But yeah, I could totally see Bottas like being in the middle of a conversation and George coming up being like, can I? Can I get in here? Can I steal her for a second? 

00:26:44 Rachelle 

I think first what would happen is Lewis would be in conversation with her and then Bottas would be like stewing grumpily in the background and finally like make his move and like start talking to her and then George would just like pop out of nowhere like yeah. 

00:26:59 Hannah 

If that isn't Bottas’ life in a nutshell, I don't know what is. 

00:27:03 Rachelle 

Yeah. Surprise! The Bachelorette is Toto Wolff!

00:27:13 Hannah 

Oh my God. Wait actually, I just had an idea.

00:27:16 Rachelle 

For a meme?

00:27:18 Hannah 

It could be, but I would have to think about how to make this into an illustration. But what about the concept of, to find the second Mercedes driver, Toto Wolff has a reality TV show to find his D2. 

00:27:32 Rachelle 

I think it's a great idea. I think he should. I don't think he will. 

00:27:36 Hannah 

But that would be highly entertaining and the perfect crossover. It just needs to be said as a consideration factor. Lance Stroll's father, Lawrence, is a billionaire. So even if you don't hit it off on night one, you should def keep him around in case sparks fly. 

00:27:58 Rachelle 

I don't understand. Why Lance is here, and Lawrence is not? Shouldn’t Lawrence be a contestant?

00:28:01 Hannah 

For one thing, Lawrence is in his 50s at least. I don't think he's single. 

00:28:12 Rachelle 

He's always like hugging a weird young blonde. Is that his wife? 

00:28:15 Hannah 

No, never seen them. 

00:28:18 Rachelle 

In all the DTS like footage when he's not strolling through paddock. 

00:28:21 Hannah 

You know, like after the Bachelor or Bachelorette episodes for a while, they've been putting out advertisements for: are you a senior looking for love? That is for Laurence. 

00:28:38 Rachelle 

No, his wife is hot. I guess she might be old, but she's a hot old person. 

00:28:44 Hannah 

Regardless, he's just not the target demographic. But I do agree with you, I would.

00:28:49 Hannah 

I’d prefer him over Lance. But for the record his real name is Laurence Sheldon Strulovitch. 

00:28:56 Hannah 

You know what I think? He totally recognizes that the only way he walks is by strolling. So I’m going to name myself Stroll. 

00:29:04 Rachelle 

You’re probably right. By the way, he's not hot in the like, I'm looking at his face now, it’s like a BDE, a riche BDE.

00:29:17 Hannah 

Just by looking at a photograph, you know this man oozes wealth and confidence. And what isn't attractive about that? He would get my first impression rose because he oozes wealth. No one even close to as rich as Lawrence. 

00:29:34 Rachelle 

What came first, the vibe or the money?

00:29:42 Hannah 

This is like asking, is it the driver or the car? You have to have the vibe to get the money, but then once you get more money, your vibe gets better. You know? Like you kind of have to be in a good car to like, show your skill, but then once you build up your skill you can get in better cars. 

00:29:59 Rachelle

Wow, what an analogy. Hannah. 

00:30:00 Hannah 

And I think a listener asked us, is it the driver or the car? So, we just answered that. 

00:30:06 Rachelle 

Yes to the listener, that is actually my dad. 

00:30:11 Hannah 

Yes, that's my analysis of that question. 

00:30:16 Rachelle 

Incredible

00:30:17 Hannah 

Sleeper pick. Well, this is what a Redditor said, but I totally agree. The sleeper pick would be Checo because similar to how he's been doing an F1, you know he's there. He's like decent and good. There's nothing like wrong, but he, I think throughout more time, will prove that he's actually way better than you thought initially. And most importantly, he's completely stable and reliable, which is so incredibly important in F1 and in life. But OK, the real question though, fantasy suites. So, everyone was drooling over Charles Leclerc and Carlos. Obviously. Those are the for sure two picks for fantasy suites. Yeah, Team Ferrari is hot. Yes, despite Mattia Binotto being the team principal. Honestly, my winner would be Carlos. Who would you choose? 

00:31:23 Rachelle 

Kimi, cause would leave me alone. 

00:31:27 Hannah 

But like straight up abandoned you. Actually. no, no, no, no, he loves his wife. 

00:31:34 Rachelle 

That's true, I don't need that in my Life OK, I take it back. 

00:31:37 Hannah 

On his Instagram. It's literally just a Samsung ad and then only pictures of his wife. We love his Samsung ad cause he just says I choose Samsung. 

00:31:50 Rachelle 

Very Kimi. The wife content is not very Kimi, but it's nice to see that he loves his wife. 

00:31:56 Hannah 

Yeah, he's unexpectedly incredibly warm and attached. 

00:32:01 Rachelle 

To his wife and children. Which is what you’d want from a person. You’d want someone to be attached to their wife and children.

00:32:09 Hannah 

In theory that would be great husband material, but then you said absolutely not. I would actually really love to get engaged to Caco. 

00:32:22 Rachelle 

Yes! Yes, I would marry Caco.

00:32:25 Hannah 

Caco is hot and scholarly and sophisticated. And would probably give you space. 

00:32:32 Rachelle 

He would give you space. But he wouldn't leave you on read because he found time to comment on our reel day of the race. 

00:32:43 Hannah 

Yes, on the day of a Grand Prix, he responded to our Instagram. 

00:32:45 Rachelle 

And why would you wanna be marrying someone who likes driving 200 miles an hour on a regular basis. That seems like a lot of stress. You marry the person in the paddock. 

00:32:54 Hannah 

Yeah, the manager of a Ferrari driver seems like a great aspiration. 

00:32:55 Rachelle 

Agreed. So Lawrence or Caco, are our choices. Now everyone knows we don't watch Formula One for the sex appeal. We watch it for a combination of things, but it's not cause we want to bang the drivers. 

00:33:16 Hannah 

We like their personalities, which is not for the looks. 

00:33:18 Rachelle 

unlike Zak Brown, who picks his drivers based on looks.

00:33:29 Hannah 

Yes, he's like Carlos is hot. Oh my gosh, he would love this Reddit thread. He'd be like, yes, Carlos and Charles could get it. 

00:33:35 Rachelle 

Literally Zak looks at the drivers as like, marketing. 

00:33:38 Hannah 

Yeah, OK, so that wraps up what we thought about a potential Bachelor season. But we have a question for our new audience. We really want to do a movie recap. 

00:33:52 Rachelle 

Racing movie recap. 

00:33:53 Hannah 

Yeah, about a race-related film. And we have two options that we'll put in a poll on Instagram, but even if it expires by the time you check, you could just email us at boxboxf1pod@gmail.com or message on any of the various platforms we're now on. 

00:34:09 Rachelle 

We’re everywhere.

00:34:15 Hannah 

Instagram. Twitter. TikTok. Reddit. Right, so the two movie ideas are Talladega Nights, which is a Will Ferrell film that’s a satire on NASCAR, which I think will really love. And then also Fast and Furious. 

00:34:34 Rachelle 

And if you have a preference for which Fast and Furious movie, DM us.

00:34:39 Hannah 

Yeah, well, this is what I'm going to say, Fast and Furious, like the original movie, and like all the ones in the beginning are more about illegal street racing, like cars and all that, but then gets into heist, spying, and crazy plots, and I mean, obviously there's still cars and like some racing, but it's really. It's globalized and crazy. So that's not necessarily a bad thing, but I do think it'd be interesting to do the first one because it's so much sets the scene of like what street racing is. 

00:35:14 Rachelle 

The only thing I really wanted to discuss was in the Hobbs and Shaw movie that came out where Dwayne got into a McLaren, which is just the funniest image to me. 

00:35:20 Hannah 

OK, as everyone knows the rock is massive and then a McLaren is so small.  

00:35:20 Rachelle 

A McLaren is built for Lando. 

00:35:35 Hannah 

Yeah a McLaren is built for a small British boy. But it’s so small that in Drive to Survive, if you remember, Carlos went grocery shopping and didn't even buy that much. He just got a bag of groceries and there was no space for the groceries in his McLaren that he drove to the grocery store. 

00:36:02 Rachelle 

And I think everyone will remember that in the opening scene for the McLaren headquarters, Zak Brown drove into work in a Range Rover. And at the time we were like, why would the head of McLaren drive a Range Rover? And then, we realized, because the head of McLaren can't fit into a McLaren.

00:36:22 Hannah 

Because the head of McLaren, Zac Brown is the Santa of F1. He doesn't want his daily commute to be crushing. 

00:36:31 Rachelle 

No, I would. I think that is where the Range Rover was a smart idea. 

00:36:35 Hannah 

Yeah, a Range Rover is roomy. But anyways OK, so vote in our poll or DM us or email us and especially for, if you choose Fast and Furious, please specify which one.

00:36:52 Rachelle 

Yes, because we don't know. And then it's on to the French Grand Prix. 

00:36:58 Hannah 

We're going to be cooking some French food ahead of the race. 

00:37:02 RAchelle 

Yes and please vote. Would you like me to do the entire French GP recap in Cyril’s accent? 

00:37:11 Hannah 

I do. But are you capable? 

00:37:13 Rachelle 

We'll see. I could try. 

00:37:18 Hannah 

It’s like 40 minutes straight. 

00:37:20 Rachelle 

I'll just eat some duck and a baguette. 

00:37:22 Hannah 

Yes. That should do it. 

00:37:24 Rachelle 

Yeah, that'll Cyril me right up. Anyway, we will see you guys in a few days. Thank you for sticking around Box Box! 

00:37:34 Hannah 

Box box.